Subject: Re: Marxism och fri programvara WAS Re: Hur kan man tjäna pengar på gpl-licensierad mjukvara?

Re: Marxism och fri programvara WAS Re: Hur kan man tjäna pengar på gpl-licensierad mjukvara?

From: Mikko Ojutkangas <mikko.ojutkangas_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:29:02 +0100

Hej!

> > 2011/12/13 Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah_at_jeremiahfoster.com>:
[...]
> > > Absolutely not. Eben Moglen would strongly disagree and he crafted
> > > large parts of the GPL v3, he also left the FSF, perhaps in a
> > > disagreement over its philosophy, and FSF is the poorer for it.
> > > Moglen is pro-business, as are many who believe in the Free Software
> > > movement.

Moglen is pro business? I wouldn't have guessed. More than pro business, I'd say he's pro people, though, for sure.

You may well be right and maybe I've heard what I want to hear when I've listened to Moglen. I should go back and see if I can spot the pro-businessyness.

Can you blame me for being confused, though? The guy wrote "The dotCommunist Manifesto" http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/my_pubs/dcm.html :

"A Spectre is haunting multinational capitalism--the spectre of free information. All the powers of ``globalism'' have entered into an unholy alliance to exorcize this spectre: Microsoft and Disney, the World Trade Organization, the United States Congress and the European Commission.

Where are the advocates of freedom in the new digital society who have not been decried as pirates, anarchists, communists? Have we not seen that many of those hurling the epithets were merely thieves in power, whose talk of ``intellectual property'' was nothing more than an attempt to retain unjustifiable privileges in a society irrevocably changing? But it is acknowledged by all the Powers of Globalism that the movement for freedom is itself a Power, and it is high time that we should publish our views in the face of the whole world, to meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Free Information with a Manifesto of our own. "

...of which the above is how far I've read it, so I should definitely dive in more deeply before making any absolute statements.

[...]
> Sedan är det nog i betraktarens öga om effekten är liberal eller
> kollektivistisk.
>
> /Anders W

Ja. FOSS kan ses som en essentiell byggsten i skilda utopier. Folk från olika ideologiska kanter kan sammarbeta i praktiken med samma kod - "Open source"-folket och "Free software"-folket och anarko-socialisten och IBM och alla däremellan. För en är det revolution, för en annan "makes business-sense", för en tredje är det bara teknologiskt pragmatiskt.

/Mikko

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