Communism - not to be confused with Commonism. :-)
On Dec 13, 2011 1:09 PM, "Jeremiah Foster" <jeremiah_at_jeremiahfoster.com>
wrote:
>
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 10:34, Per Andersson wrote:
>
> > 2011/12/12 Björn Stenberg <bjorn_at_haxx.se>:
> >> Per Andersson wrote:
> >>> Kommunism, åt var och en efter behov - från var och en efter förmåga,
> >>> uppfylls ju med råge av fri programvara.
> >>
> >> Man får använda en ganska stor hammare för att tvinga ihop
> pusselbitarna kommunism och fri programvara.
> >
> > Det tycker jag verkligen inte. Raoul Victor sammanfattar såhär
> >
> > Many hackers ignore Marxism, or, worst, they assimilate it to
> Stalinism.
>
> This is a general complaint about views on Marxism that can be extended to
> the public at large. But one of the reasons Marxism is ignored is that it
> has failed to provide a practical political framework for an egalitarian
> society.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I appreciate Marxism, but it is as Foucault says;
> Marxism is a discursive practice, not a political platform.
>
> >> Fri programvara handlar om användarens frihet, inte om programmens pris.
> >>
> >> Det kommunistiska "åt var och en efter behov" betyder att alla ska få
> vad de behöver. Fri programvara har ingenting med behov att göra, utan
> handlar om att när man köper ett program ska vissa grundläggande
> rättigheter ingå.
> >
> > Jag tycker att det visst handlar om behov, det var ju därför Stallman
> startade
> > GNU-projektet! Han hade behov av att fixa en bugg i ett OS som han inte
> fick
> > tillåtelse av eftersom det var proprietärt. Behovsstyrt!
> >
> > Vidare går det ju att säga att källkoden är produktionsmedlen som krävs
> för att
> > återskapa produkten, dvs programmet. (Marx levde ju inte när vi hade
> källkod,
> > då fanns det ju bara fysiska produktionsmedel.)
>
> It is true that Free Software like GNU/Linux contains a toolchain that you
> can use to rebuild it. This is awfully close to the Marxist idea of the
> proletariat controlling the 'means of production.' But this is ultimately a
> poor analogy. To have the source code to GNU/Linux be worth anything you
> have to run it on hardware which you cannot create yourself so you have to
> purchase a CPU, etc. Once you go down that rabbit hole you are back in
> capitalism's grip.
>
> This is only one point that exposes the mismatch of Marx's ideas and the
> Free Software movement. Another would be the fact that the GPL in fact
> enshrines private property. When I download a distro, it is mine to change,
> to control, to do as I see fit with. It belongs to me. This notion of
> individual ownership is fundamental to capitalism and a direct
> contradiction of the collective ownership that Marx envisioned. That the
> GPL protects private property is pretty much all the evidence needed to
> show that Free Software has no ideological affinity to Marxism,
> collectivism or socialism. There are other contradictions as well, but this
> one pretty much puts the nail in the coffin.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremiah
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