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Hej foss-sthlm!

Jag har på mitt bord att skriva en kort artikel om tillväxten av
Linux-baserade datorer som är annat än traditionella kontors- /
hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig ökning? Vad kan väntas av trenden?

Till detta skulle jag behöva få korta kommentarer från en eller två
personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis på denna lista.
Ergo: Kan du tänka dig att skicka mig en kommentar på temat, som får
publiceras i TechWorld med ditt namn och bild? (Om jag behöver korta
någonting kollar jag självklart att du godkänner den kortade versionen
innan jag skickar av den.) I så fall: Släng över ett mail, gärna så snart
som möjligt.

Vänliga hälsningar

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Hej,

2013/11/5 Monika Orski <monika@orski.se>:
> Jag har på mitt bord att skriva en kort artikel om tillväxten av
> Linux-baserade datorer som är annat än traditionella kontors- /
> hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig ökning? Vad kan väntas av trenden?

Här finns en del basstatistik (som kan diskuteras avseende metodik för
datainsamling):

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

> Till detta skulle jag behöva få korta kommentarer från en eller två
> personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis på denna lista.

Jag tror att statistiken för superdatorer ger en vink om framtiden. :-)

/Paul

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Linux finns ju på många ställen numera där alla kanske inte tänker på det.
Inbyggda system, smådatorer (raspberry pie), mobiltelefoner (android), routrar m.m i hemmet.
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From: foss-sthlm [foss-sthlm-bounces@cool.haxx.se] on behalf of Paul Cohen [paco@seibostudios.se]
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Subject: Re: Kommentar om Linux-spridning på mobiler, spelkonsoler etc?

Hej,

2013/11/5 Monika Orski <monika@orski.se>:
> Jag har på mitt bord att skriva en kort artikel om tillväxten av
> Linux-baserade datorer som är annat än traditionella kontors- /
> hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig ökning? Vad kan väntas av trenden?

Här finns en del basstatistik (som kan diskuteras avseende metodik för
datainsamling):

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

> Till detta skulle jag behöva få korta kommentarer från en eller två
> personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis på denna lista.

Jag tror att statistiken för superdatorer ger en vink om framtiden. :-)

/Paul

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Hej,

Då jag/vi jobbar inom både serverlösningar och inbyggda system så får
du två svar "i ett" nedan. ;-)

On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:51:28AM +0100, Monika Orski wrote:
> Hej foss-sthlm!
> 
> Jag har på mitt bord att skriva en kort artikel om tillväxten av
> Linux-baserade datorer som är annat än traditionella kontors- /
> hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig ökning? Vad kan väntas av trenden?

Inom både serverlösningar och inbyggda system så ser vi Linux som helt
dominerande operativsystem idag och för att för 10+ år sedan vara
tvungen att motivera varför man skall använda Linux för en viss
lösning/projekt så ser vi idag att trenden är den motsatta, idag är
Linux så självklart inom dessa lösningar så att man idag får motivera
varför man INTE skall välja Linux.
Kan väl poängtera att inom serverlösningar så ser vi att det finns det
en del specialområden där Linux inte är dominerande och ett självklart
val, ex. är "kontorsservrar/arbetsgruppsservrar" ett sådant.

Framförallt ser vi en tillväxt inom inbyggda system och ser att denna
beror på två saker; dels finns det här en mycket längre produktcykel
(undantaget en del konsumentelektronik som telefoner, etc.) vilket gör
att de inte lika snabbt har börjat med Linux. Sedan styrs detta också
mycket av hårdvaruutvecklingen där det idag har blivit möjligt att
använda processorer som kan köra ett "riktigt" operativsystem (som
Linux) inom en mängd områden där det tidigare inte varit möjligt,
framförallt på grund av kostnad, men också på grund av teknisk
utveckling. 

På serversidan upplever inte vi/jag att det sker någon större tillväxt
(d.v.s. att Linux tar marknadsandelar från andra operativsystem), då
Linux haft en dominerande ställning där sedan lång tid (med vissa
undantag enl. ovan). Möjligen kan trenden att flytta ut tjänster
externt till extern webtjänst eller virtituella maskiner hos tredje
part bidra till viss ökning av Linux(?).


> Till detta skulle jag behöva få korta kommentarer från en eller två
> personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis på denna lista.
> Ergo: Kan du tänka dig att skicka mig en kommentar på temat, som får
> publiceras i TechWorld med ditt namn och bild? (Om jag behöver korta
> någonting kollar jag självklart att du godkänner den kortade versionen
> innan jag skickar av den.) I så fall: Släng över ett mail, gärna så snart
> som möjligt.

Samanfattningsvis kan man väl säga att Linux är stort inom dessa
områden (i Sverige) där vi som ett litet svenskt företag har sålt
serverlösningar för över 100m/år och jobbat med Linux i inbyggda
system inom sateliter, bilar, telefoner, kassasystem, m.m.


Nu jobbar jag/vi ju bara med Linux så givetvis kan väl min bild vara
lite färgad av detta... ;-)

MVH
Jakob Sandgren
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På ett par timmar har jag redan fått en bunt kommentarer, en del på listan
och en del direkt i min brevlåda. Stort tack till alla!

Vänliga hälsningar

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Ang=E5ende Android, notera att det endast =E4r en Linuxk=E4rna, Android anv=
=E4nder
inte GNU libc (glibc). En teknisk distinktion, m=E5h=E4nda, men en viktig
s=E5dan. Dessutom =E4r v=E4l licensen annorlunda f=F6r googles libc. Notera=
 ocks=E5
att Android huvudsakligen programmeras i Java, inte med vanligt Linux-
eller Posix-API. Dock anv=E4nds ju native-API:et n=E4r man vill ha extremt =
h=F6g
prestanda, d=E5 fungerar bara C/C++ eller assembler.

mvh.

/Erik Alap=E4=E4


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2013/11/5 Monika Orski <monika@orski.se>

> Hej foss-sthlm!
>
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> Linux-baserade datorer som =E4r annat =E4n traditionella kontors- /
> hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig =F6kning? Vad kan v=E4ntas av trenden?
>
> Till detta skulle jag beh=F6va f=E5 korta kommentarer fr=E5n en eller tv=
=E5
> personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis p=E5 denna lista.
> Ergo: Kan du t=E4nka dig att skicka mig en kommentar p=E5 temat, som f=E5=
r
> publiceras i TechWorld med ditt namn och bild? (Om jag beh=F6ver korta
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> som m=F6jligt.
>
> V=E4nliga h=E4lsningar
>
> Monika
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Hej!

2013/11/5 Lukas Bergliden <lukasj@kth.se>:
> Linux finns ju på många ställen numera där alla kanske inte tänker på det.
> Inbyggda system, smådatorer (raspberry pie), mobiltelefoner (android), routrar m.m i hemmet.

Detta är kanske än av de viktigare och intressantare aspekterna på
frågan om var Linux används idag. Det är dock inte helt lätt att
snabbt få tillförlitlig statistik på det.

Andra exempel på sådana devices är NAS-enheter, mediaspelare, smart-tv
etc. Det blir tex. intressant att se vad Samsung kan göra med Tizen:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

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2013-11-05 09:51, Monika Orski skrev:
> Hej foss-sthlm!
>
> Jag har på mitt bord att skriva en kort artikel om tillväxten av
> Linux-baserade datorer som är annat än traditionella kontors- /
> hemdatorer. Ser vi en tydlig ökning? Vad kan väntas av trenden?
>
> Till detta skulle jag behöva få korta kommentarer från en eller två
> personer, och insatta personer hittar man naturligtvis på denna lista.
> Ergo: Kan du tänka dig att skicka mig en kommentar på temat, som får
> publiceras i TechWorld med ditt namn och bild? (Om jag behöver korta
> någonting kollar jag självklart att du godkänner den kortade versionen
> innan jag skickar av den.) I så fall: Släng över ett mail, gärna så snart
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> Vänliga hälsningar
>
> Monika
>

Idag är det Linux som är huvudspåret när det gäller datorer. Den är
aldra störst för hemdatorer.

Det är iofs inget nytt - det sade jag redan 2011:

http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.418147/linuxforeningen-android-viktigare-an-ubuntu

Du kan även hitta ett antal bloggposter om det på min blogg
du får gärna citera mig om du vill:

http://kunskapssamhallet.se/?s=android

Dessutom så kan detta tom förtjänas en helt egen artikel:

http://www.zdnet.com/20-great-years-of-linux-and-supercomputers-7000018681/

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Anders S Lindbäck wrote:

> Idag är det Linux som är huvudspåret när det gäller datorer. Den är aldra 
> störst för hemdatorer.

Och med det menar du "hemdatorer" i form av plattor och telefoner gissar jag? 
Just desktop är väl annars nästan det enda område där Linux inte växt något 
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2013-11-05 19:51, Daniel Stenberg skrev:
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Anders S Lindbäck wrote:
>
>> Idag är det Linux som är huvudspåret när det gäller datorer. Den är aldra störst för hemdatorer.
>
> Och med det menar du "hemdatorer" i form av plattor och telefoner gissar jag? Just desktop är väl annars nästan det enda område där Linux inte växt något speciellt de senaste åren.


Hemdator = en dator folk använder i sitt hem.

Det innefattar då allt från en Commondore 64 till en platta från samsung.
Så ja plattor och smarta telefoner främst - det är den typ av datorer
som idag ökar i användning i hemmen.

När det gäller desktop så är det idag en av de få nisher där försäljningen
sjunker. De ersätts av andra datorer i snabb takt, speciellt i hemmen.

PS Se även http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemdator

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Hej hopp!

Stockholm är ju stort, och ni som befinner er i de yttervästra delarna är 
kanske intresserade av...

  Raspberry Pi Night i Göteborg

Vi kör ett hackerevent onsdagen den 20:e november hos Pelagicore. Vi träffas, 
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Morrs!

Ett mÃ¶te i Januari lÃ¥ter bra!

On 28/10/13 10:12, Jonas Ã–berg wrote:
>> Ett mÃ¶te Ã¤r ju alltid rÃ¤tt och det var ju ett tag sen sist! Nu Ã¤r
>> ju Claes och Inits evenemang planerat till den 27:e november som
>> en rÃ¤tt foss-inriktad grej i omrÃ¥det sen Ã¤r det vÃ¤l kanske lite
>> trÃ¥ngt att fÃ¥ in nÃ¥got i Ã¥r. Men varfÃ¶r inte fÃ¶rsÃ¶ka spika ett
>> datum i januari och bÃ¶rja samla ihop potentiella talare dit?
> 
> Jag Ã¤r pÃ¥, nu nÃ¤r jag om en knapp mÃ¥nad blir Stockholmare[*] :-)
> 
> 
> Mvh Jonas
> 
> [*] NÃ¥vÃ¤l, Gnestabo dÃ¥, men nÃ¤ra nog.

Gnesta Ã¤r fint, det ska du inte skÃ¤mmas fÃ¶r. Hade jag kunnat bo dÃ¤r sÃ¥ ;)

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Hi,

Andrew Katz from Moorcrofts LLP is a lawyer focusing on IP issues and
has considerable experience with Free Software licenses will be
speaking in Stockholm in November: http://www.opensourcesweden.se/2929

I'm not involved in the event and am not sure I'll make it, but I 
can recommend Andrew, I know him a little bit from a Free Software
Foundation Europe mailing list that focuses on legal issues.

BTW, we have a foss-gbg mailing list now as well, modeled on the
foss-sthlm list;
http://lists.pelagicore.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss-gbg
Web page and domain for foss-gbg coming soon.


Warm regards from Göteborg,

Jeremiah
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2013/10/30 Claes Jakobsson <claes@surfar.nu>:
> Hej,
>
> nu är programmet till Inits event den 27:e november klart och vi tycker vi fått ihop en intressant samling talare och ämnen. Inte en FOSS-Sthlm aktivitet dock men väl något jag tror intresserar er ändå.
>
> Preliminärt program (i ingen specifik ordning):
>
> + Open Source at Spotify - Noa Resare, Spotify
> + Open source and the importance of automatic testing - Daniel Stenberg, Haxx
> + … as a Service - Claes Jakobsson, Init
> + Cloud Infrastructure as Code - Henrik Lindberg, Puppet Labs Inc
> + Which are the principal Open Source licenses? Why are there so many? Which one should I choose? - Jonas Linde, Init
> + Vagrant: your personal cloud - Jim Svensson, Init
> + Lager av komplexitet: varför det är så svårt att mäta systemutveckling - Marcus Ahnve
> + mm...

Intressanta föredrag. Tyvärr kan jag inte komma men undrar om det
kommer det att filmas.


--
Per


> Vi har lagt upp en grupp på Meetup för detta event så om ni tänker komma så anmäl er snarast. En del av er har redan visat intresse via vår sida men ni får gärna slutligt boka er biljett via meetup också så att vi kan beställa rätt mängd mat. Ni som föranmält er är garanterade en plats.
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> http://www.meetup.com/Techday-by-Init/events/148234372/
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On 19 Nov 2013, at 23:59, Per Andersson <avtobiff@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/10/30 Claes Jakobsson <claes@surfar.nu>:
>> Hej,
>> 
>> nu är programmet till Inits event den 27:e november klart och vi tycker vi fått ihop en intressant samling talare och ämnen. Inte en FOSS-Sthlm aktivitet dock men väl något jag tror intresserar er ändå.
>> 
>> Preliminärt program (i ingen specifik ordning):
>> 
>> + Open Source at Spotify - Noa Resare, Spotify
>> + Open source and the importance of automatic testing - Daniel Stenberg, Haxx
>> + … as a Service - Claes Jakobsson, Init
>> + Cloud Infrastructure as Code - Henrik Lindberg, Puppet Labs Inc
>> + Which are the principal Open Source licenses? Why are there so many? Which one should I choose? - Jonas Linde, Init
>> + Vagrant: your personal cloud - Jim Svensson, Init
>> + Lager av komplexitet: varför det är så svårt att mäta systemutveckling - Marcus Ahnve
>> + mm...
> 
> Intressanta föredrag. Tyvärr kan jag inte komma men undrar om det
> kommer det att filmas.
> 
> 
> --
> Per
> 
Ja, videoinspelning är planerad och ordnat med.

--
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> 
>> Vi har lagt upp en grupp på Meetup för detta event så om ni tänker komma så anmäl er snarast. En del av er har redan visat intresse via vår sida men ni får gärna slutligt boka er biljett via meetup också så att vi kan beställa rätt mängd mat. Ni som föranmält er är garanterade en plats.
>> 
>> http://www.meetup.com/Techday-by-Init/events/148234372/
>> 
>> /Claes
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