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PostgreSQL FOSS STHLM.pdf och PostgreSQL FOSS STHLM.odp har n=E5got
beh=F6righetsproblem.
//PG

s=F6n 2010-02-28 klockan 23:48 +0100 skrev Daniel Stenberg:
> Hejsan
> =

> S=E5 det har nu passerat n=E5gra dagar sedan tr=E4ff ett, och vi kan se v=
ad som =

> funkade, vad som inte funkade och vad vi kan t=E4nkas sikta mot fram=F6ve=
r.
> =

> F=F6rst enk=E4ten. Det program som delades ut p=E5 m=F6tet hade en enk=E4=
t med. Jag =

> r=E4knade fram 106 ifyllda s=E5dana, och svaren kan man se i den fina PDF=
 som =

> Claes gjorde: http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote1/enkat-svar.pdf
> =

> En snabb summering av det =E4r v=E4l: m=E5nga av oss jobbar med foss, 4-6=
 m=F6ten per =

> =E5r =E4r bra, tre timmar med f=F6redrag verkar vara ett popul=E4rt forma=
t, sen =

> eftermiddag och kv=E4ll funkar f=F6r v=E4ldigt m=E5nga, spridda tankar om=
 veckodagar =

> men tis-tors verkar ha bred support, foss-sthlm ska nog vara kvar som "in=
gen =

> f=F6rening", svalt intresse f=F6r foss p=E5 windows eller mac.
> =

> I f=E4lten som folk f=E5tt po=E4ngs=E4tta f=F6redragen s=E5 kan vi ju se =
dels hur =

> intressanta f=F6redrags=E4mnena var samt hur bra f=F6redragsh=E5llarna va=
r. De olika =

> f=F6redragens intressant-niv=E5 rangordnades av publiken i f=F6ljande ord=
ning. Mest =

> intressant f=F6rst:
> =

> Rockbox - curl - Debian paketering - Upstart - PostgreSQL - Open Source S=
weden
> =

> Po=E4ngen f=F6r genomf=F6rande delar jag nog fr=E4mst med mig till just d=
e =

> individerna det handlar om.
> =

> L=E5t mig igen f=E5 p=E5peka att allt material fr=E5n m=F6tet finns att b=
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>   http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote1-dok.html
> =

> -- =

> =

>   / daniel.haxx.se
> _______________________________________________ http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se=
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Pontus Goffe wrote:

> PostgreSQL FOSS STHLM.pdf och PostgreSQL FOSS STHLM.odp har något 
> behörighetsproblem.

Jepp, sorry för det. Fixat nu!

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Hej allihop!

D=E5 har mitt stackars ADSL som f=E5tt spatt till slut lyckats rsynca upp =

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Hej igen!

Nu n=E4r jag =E4ntligen f=E5tt upp sista filmen t=E4nkte jag passa p=E5 att=
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eller s=E5 s=E4tts det upp en separat mailinglista (fossjobb?) f=F6r det s=
=E5
kan vi anv=E4nda v=E5r fria vilja.
//PG

m=E5n 2010-03-01 klockan 21:31 +0100 skrev G=F6ran Krampe:
> Hej igen!
> =

> Nu n=E4r jag =E4ntligen f=E5tt upp sista filmen t=E4nkte jag passa p=E5 a=
tt fiska =

> efter duktiga utvecklare som vill jobba som konsulter. Annonserna finner =

> du h=E4r:
> =

> http://www.msc.se/jobb/msc-soker.html
> =

> ...och en beskrivning av utvecklargruppen p=E5 MSC som jag =E4r gruppchef =

> f=F6r finner du h=E4r:
> =

> http://www.msc.se/foretaget/organisation/systemutveckling.html
> =

> Totalt skall v=E5r grupp v=E4xa med 6 utvecklare under =E5ret.
> =

> mvh G=F6ran Krampe
> =

> PS. T=E4nker inte spamma listan mer med jobb-annonser, men ett s=E5nt h=
=E4r =

> inl=E4gg per =E5r torde vara ok :)
> =

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Pontus Goffe skrev:
> eller s=E5 s=E4tts det upp en separat mailinglista (fossjobb?) f=F6r det =
s=E5
> kan vi anv=E4nda v=E5r fria vilja.

Det finns redan en epostlista f=F6r fossjobb:


http://lists.se.linux.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/jobb


Tillhandah=E5lls av Svenska Linuxf=F6reningen.



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2010/3/1 G=F6ran Krampe <goran.krampe@msc.se>:
> Hej igen!
>
> Nu n=E4r jag =E4ntligen f=E5tt upp sista filmen t=E4nkte jag passa p=E5 a=
tt fiska
> efter duktiga utvecklare som vill jobba som konsulter. Annonserna finner =
du
> h=E4r:
>
> http://www.msc.se/jobb/msc-soker.html
>
> ...och en beskrivning av utvecklargruppen p=E5 MSC som jag =E4r gruppchef=
 f=F6r
> finner du h=E4r:
>
> http://www.msc.se/foretaget/organisation/systemutveckling.html
>
> Totalt skall v=E5r grupp v=E4xa med 6 utvecklare under =E5ret.
>
> mvh G=F6ran Krampe
>
> PS. T=E4nker inte spamma listan mer med jobb-annonser, men ett s=E5nt h=
=E4r inl=E4gg
> per =E5r torde vara ok :)

=C4ven om listan inte =E4r n=E5gon n=E5gon arbetsf=F6rmedling =E4r jag pers=
onligen
dock v=E4ldigt
ntresserad av arbetsm=F6jligheter inom FOSS.

F=F6rra sommaren letade jag febrilt efter f=F6retag som sysslar med detta,
utan n=E5gra
speciella kontakter och med endast Google och Svenska Linuxf=F6reningens
f=F6retagskatalog till hj=E4lp hittade jag v=E4ldigt lite. Det har n=E4stan
dykt upp mer p=E5
listan h=E4r hittills!


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Hej!

Per Andersson wrote:
> 2010/3/1 G=F6ran Krampe <goran.krampe@msc.se>:
>> PS. T=E4nker inte spamma listan mer med jobb-annonser, men ett s=E5nt h=
=E4r inl=E4gg
>> per =E5r torde vara ok :)
> =

> =C4ven om listan inte =E4r n=E5gon n=E5gon arbetsf=F6rmedling =E4r jag pe=
rsonligen
> dock v=E4ldigt
> ntresserad av arbetsm=F6jligheter inom FOSS.
> =

> F=F6rra sommaren letade jag febrilt efter f=F6retag som sysslar med detta,
> utan n=E5gra
> speciella kontakter och med endast Google och Svenska Linuxf=F6reningens
> f=F6retagskatalog till hj=E4lp hittade jag v=E4ldigt lite. Det har n=E4st=
an
> dykt upp mer p=E5
> listan h=E4r hittills!

Ja, personligen tror jag att "[jobb]"-prefix skulle duga tills vidare, =

det =E4r ju inte n=E5gon FLOD direkt. Och blir det en flod kan vi fixa n=E5=
got.

Svenska Linuxf=F6reningen i all =E4ra - men det =E4r ett ganska sn=E4vt fok=
us - =

iaf f=F6r v=E5r del. Vi =E4r ute efter utvecklare.

Men MSC kommer inte "spamma" n=E5got mer om jobb i alla fall, de som =E4r =

intresserade b=F6r ha f=E5tt upp =F6gonen nu. Anledningen till att jag =E4n=
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gjorde det =E4r f=F6r att vi s=F6ker s=E5 m=E5nga just nu.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Göran Krampe wrote:

> Ja, personligen tror jag att "[jobb]"-prefix skulle duga tills vidare, det 
> är ju inte någon FLOD direkt. Och blir det en flod kan vi fixa något.

Jag håller med!

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On 2 mar 2010, at 10.29, G=F6ran Krampe wrote:
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Hej!

Jimmy Hedman p=E5 Southpole k=F6rde mitt mencoder-skript s=E5 att vi nu har=
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http://foss-sthlm.krampe.se/upstart.avi

Den kan man kanske slaska upp p=E5 ngn tub! :)

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On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Göran Krampe wrote:

> http://foss-sthlm.krampe.se/upstart.avi
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> Den kan man kanske slaska upp på ngn tub! :)

Jodå, den finns numera också på http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote1-dok.html (via 
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Bra! D=E5 kontrar jag med:

http://foss-sthlm.krampe.se/postgresql.avi

:)

mvh G=F6ran

Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, G=F6ran Krampe wrote:
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>> http://foss-sthlm.krampe.se/upstart.avi
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>> Den kan man kanske slaska upp p=E5 ngn tub! :)
> =

> Jod=E5, den finns numera ocks=E5 p=E5 http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote1-dok=
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> (via blip.tv)
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Göran Krampe wrote:

> Bra! Då kontrar jag med:
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> http://foss-sthlm.krampe.se/postgresql.avi

Sådärja, då har vi alla föredrag på summerings-sidan[*]. Om någon har länkar, 
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[*] = http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote1-dok.html

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11 jan 2010 kl. 10.26 skrev Daniel Stenberg:

> Vi =E4r ju n=E4stan 110 personer p=E5 listan nu och jag vill bara =
p=E5minna och informera nytillkomna medlemmar att vi G=C4RNA tar emot =
info om dels vilka foss-projekt som ni jobbar/deltar i samt =E4mnen och =
f=F6rslag p=E5 f=F6redrag som ni kan h=E5lla och f=F6redrag som ni vill =
lyssna p=E5!
>=20
> Introduktionerna som postades ett tag i b=F6rjan var ju hur kul som =
helst att l=E4sa ocks=E5, de g=F6r att ju att man "l=E4ra k=E4nna" =
varandra litegrann.

Jag har lurkat ett tag men t=E4nkte att det var l=E4ge att presentera =
mig: Jag heter Karl-K=F6nig K=F6nigsson och har h=E5llit p=E5 med FOSS =
sedan 80-talet d=E5 jag h=F6ll i en news-server p=E5 universitetet. Jag =
fortsatte i b=F6rjan av 90-talet med att bland annat bidra till en =
newsl=E4sare som hette "tin". Jag hoppade p=E5 Linux s=E5 fort det d=F6k =
upp, i mitt fall runt -93 och kernel-version 0.98, och sedan har det =
fortsatt av bara farten.

Jag har jobbat med CM-system och versionshantering en hel del och byggde =
till exempel ett komplett CM-system =E5t Posten som var helt =
FOSS-baserat, ett system som jag =E4ven har presenterat p=E5 en =
konferens om OpenSource som Dataf=F6reningen h=F6ll i (m=E5ste ha varit =
2003/2004). Jag f=F6ljer med i utvecklingen s=E5 gott jag kan och missar =
s=E4llan en chans att belysa FOSS-alternativ n=E4r tillf=E4lle ges, i =
synnerhet n=E4r l=F6sningarna ges av "hj=E4rntv=E4ttade" One Stop =
Shop-f=F6respr=E5kare (en typ som jag tror att ni alla v=E4l k=E4nner =
till).

Som kanske framg=E5r =E4r jag av naturen en pragmatiker som anser att =
man skall v=E4lja verktyg efter meriter och inte efter politisk =
=E5sk=E5dning. F=F6ljaktligen ser jag g=E4rna l=F6sningar med blandade =
tekniker, d=E4r syftet skall vara att leverera en funktionalitet som =
skall vara kostnadseffektiv, underh=E5llbar och v=E4lintegrerad och d=E4r =
ser jag ofta att COTS och FOSS kan g=E5 hand i hand. F=F6r att anv=E4nda =
Deng Xiao Pings ord: "I don't care if it's a white cat or a black cat. =
It's a good cat so long as it catches mice.".


F=F6r ett =E5r sedan tog jag fram ett f=F6redrag som handar om =
OpenSource som aff=E4rsid=E9 d=E4r jag v=E4nder mig till dem som =
funderar =F6ver om OpenSource kan vara en v=E4g att g=E5 f=F6r ett =
f=F6retag, vad det inneb=E4r och vad det kan ha f=F6r konsekvenser. =
F=F6redraget fick god respons och =E4r ett, som jag ser det, st=E4ndigt =
aktuellt =E4mne och jag h=E5ller det g=E4rna i den h=E4r konstellationen =
om intresse finns.


H=E4lsningar


	Karl-K=F6nig K=F6nigsson
	Donald Davies & Partners


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Hej,

Nedan f=F6ljer inbjudan till konferensen "=D6ppna Ekosystem" som jag ocks=
=E5
talade om p=E5 foss-m=F6tet:


V=E4lkommen till konferensen "=D6ppna Ekosystem" i Sk=F6vde den 23 april!



Vad och N=E4r?

Fredagen den 23 april arrangeras konferensen "=D6ppna Ekosystem" i Portalen=
 i =

Sk=F6vde. Konferensen arrangeras av forskargruppen Software Systems, som =
=E4r =

en del av Informatics Research Centre vid H=F6gskolan i Sk=F6vde, i samverk=
an =

med f=F6reningen Open Source Sweden, n=E4tverket KIVOS (kommunsamverkan i V=
=E4st =

f=F6r Open Source) och ett antal Open Source communities.


Syftet med konferensen?

Syftet med konferensen =E4r att samla intressegrupper fr=E5n olika roller  =

(utvecklare, leverant=F6rer och anv=E4ndare) f=F6r att mer allsidigt belysa=
  =

m=F6jligheter och utmaningar med =F6ppen k=E4llkod. Vi =E4r =F6vertygade om=
 att  =

samverkan mellan olika intressegrupper och roller =E4r viktigt f=F6r  =

l=E5ngsiktigt framg=E5ngsrika =F6ppen k=E4llkodsprojekt.

Konferensens namn och tema =E4r "=D6ppna ekosystem" och i detta ligger  =

aspekter som r=F6r aff=E4rsutveckling, styrning och finansiering av =F6ppen=
  =

k=E4llkodsprojekt. Ett "=F6ppet ekosystem" omfattar =E4ven fr=E5gor som r=
=F6r  =

individers motiv och incitament f=F6r att engagera sig i en =F6ppen samverk=
an.


Programmet?

Konferensen startar 09:30 och avslutas 17:00. I direkt anslutning till  =

starten av konferensen (mellan 09:00-09:30) ges en =F6vergripande  =

presentation till omr=E5det som riktar sig till den som vill f=E5 en  =

introduktion till =F6ppen k=E4llkod och =F6ppna standarder.

Under konferensen kommer Professor Mogens Kuhn Pedersen (Copenhagen  =

Business School och ordf=F6rande i Dansk standard) att h=E5lla en presentat=
ion =

om de danska erfarenheterna av att inom offentlig sektor arbeta med =F6ppna =

standarder och det nyligen fattade beslutet (i Folketinget) om =F6ppna =

dokumentformat.

Dessutom kommer ett antal leverant=F6rer och =F6ppen k=E4llkodsprojekt att  =

presenteras.

En stor del av konferensen =E4gnas =E5t diskussioner och till en utst=E4lln=
ing. =

Under ett antal tematiska diskussioner f=F6rdjupar vi oss i olika fr=E5gor, =

exempelvis: hur vi p=E5 ett b=E4ttre s=E4tt kan sprida information och kuns=
kap =

till olika grupper, hur vi kan vidareutveckla det =F6ppna ekosystemet s=E5 =
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alla grupper kommer med, fr=E5gor om arkitektur och interoperabilitet som =

baseras p=E5 =F6ppna standarder, samt i ett erfarenhetsutbyte om specifika =

=F6ppna teknologier och ramverk. Dessa diskussioner koordineras av =

f=F6retr=E4dare f=F6r olika roller i det =F6ppna ekosystemet. Under utst=E4=
llningen =

kan du n=E4tverka och prata med forskare, leverant=F6rer och f=F6retr=E4dar=
e f=F6r =

olika =F6ppen k=E4llkodsprojekt.


Anm=E4lan?

Ditt deltagande i konferensen =E4r kostnadsfritt men f=F6ranm=E4lan kr=E4vs=
. Sista =

datum f=F6r anm=E4lan =E4r 15 april. Du anm=E4ler dig genom att skicka ett =
ebrev =

till "eko2010@his.se" (d=E4r du anger NAMN och ORGANISATION). F=F6r att p=
=E5 =

b=E4sta s=E4tt kunna planera diskussionerna under konferensen =E4r vi  =

intresserade av veta lite om din erfarenhet kring =F6ppen k=E4llkod. Kanske=
 du =

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r =

eller anv=E4ndare av =F6ppen k=E4llkod)? Du f=E5r g=E4rna skriva n=E5gon ra=
d om detta =

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Vi vill understryka att du sj=E4lvklart ocks=E5 =E4r v=E4lkommen till konfe=
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=E4ven om du inte har n=E5gon tidigare erfarenhet av =F6ppen k=E4llkod.


Hotell?

F=F6r dig som kommer l=E5ngt ifr=E5n kanske du =E4r intresserad av ett hote=
llrum  =

f=F6r natten mellan torsdag och fredag. Det finns tips p=E5 hotell p=E5  =

webbsidan www.his.se/eko2010


Bakgrund till konferensen?

Vid H=F6gskolan i Sk=F6vde har det under ett antal =E5r bedrivits forskning=
  =

kring =F6ppen k=E4llkod och =F6ppna standarder. I Sverige finns m=E5nga per=
soner  =

som =E4r engagerade i olika =F6ppen k=E4llkodsprojekt och det finns ocks=E5=
  =

organisationer, som p=E5 olika s=E4tt, arbetar med =F6ppen k=E4llkod och =
=F6ppna  =

standarder. F=F6r Open Source Sweden (www.opensourcesweden.se) och Kivos  =

(www.kivos.se) =E4r detta viktiga fr=E5gor och d=E4rf=F6r genomf=F6rs denna=
  =

konferens i samverkan med forskningsgruppen Software Systems vid H=F6gskola=
n =

i Sk=F6vde.

=D6ppen k=E4llkod och =F6ppna standarder blir allt viktigare f=F6r m=E5nga  =

organisationer. Genom SOU 2009:86 (e-f=F6rvaltningsstrategin) aktualiseras  =

fr=E5gan om =F6ppen k=E4llkod och =F6ppna standarder f=F6r kommuner, landst=
ing och  =

myndigheter. D=E4rf=F6r genomf=F6r nu forskargruppen denna konferens i samv=
erkan =

med Open Source Sweden, Kivos och ett antal personer i olika =F6ppen =

k=E4llkodsprojekt. Alla =E4r v=E4lkomna!

K=E4nner du till n=E5gon person som =E4r aktiv i n=E5got community? Kanske =
rent av =

n=E5gon som kan f=F6retr=E4da detta community i den utst=E4llning som plane=
ras? I =

s=E5 fall, h=F6r av dig till eko2010@his.se.

Tanken med konferensen =E4r att vi (utvecklare, leverant=F6rer och anv=E4nd=
are) =

alla har n=E5got att vinna p=E5 att g=F6ra gemensam sak. Kivos =E4r baserad=
e i =

v=E4stsverige vilket g=F6r att vi tar detta initiativ med en konferens i Sk=
=F6vde =

(i forskningshuset Portalen) den 23 april. Konferensen arrangeras endast =

400 meter fr=E5n Sk=F6vde central (2 timmars med X2000 fr=E5n Stockholm och=
 1 =

timma fr=E5n G=F6teborg l=E4ngs v=E4stra stambanan).



Mer information?

F=F6r mer information om konferensen, se: http://www.his.se/eko2010

Se =E4ven www.opensourcesweden.se samt www.kivos.se f=F6r mer information o=
m  =

konferensen. Har du fr=E5gor =E4r du hj=E4rtligt v=E4lkommen att h=F6ra av =
dig  =

(eko2010@his.se) eller direkt till mig (epost: eko2010@his.se.


-- =

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Phone:  +46 8 56237100          Anderstorpsv=E4gen 16
Mobile: +46 707 300541          SE - 17154 Solna =

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Hejsan alla!

Siktet är nu inställt på ett foss-sthlm #2 den 19:e maj. Samma lokal som förra 
gången är "prelbokad".

Läge att börja fundera på vad vi vill höra eller göra nästa gång, helt enkelt!

Som jag ser det finns det några olika huvudspår att välja på, med respektive 
subalternativ:

1 - ett liknande möte som #1 med N stycken föredrag. Vilka föredrag tycker ni
     skulle göra ett bra möte #2? Eller vilka föredrag skulle du villa HÅLLA
     nästa gång?

2 - ett möte med N stycken föredrag på ett tema, kanske följt av någon typ av
     diskussion/frågestund/panel-debatt. Lämpliga teman som kan vara
     intressanta kan då vara t.ex
     A) hur tar emot/hur välkomna nya bidrag/hur bidra till foss. Hur bör
        projekt göra? Hur bör nykomlingar göra? Vad gör det svårt?
     B) pengar och foss - hur tjäna pengar, hur köpa foss-tjänster, hur pengar
        och foss-bidragande kan fungera tillsammans (eller inte). Hur funkar
        pengar för olika licenser eller projekt?
     C) licenser. Vilka licenser används till vad? Vad är skillanden på dem
        enligt vem? Varför ska du/vi/ni välja licens X (eller inte). License
        violations - hur hittar man och vad gör man? Juridik?
     D) säkerhet. hur gör man säker foss. Hur hittar man osäker foss? Hur
        hanterar du rappoerterade säkerhetsproblem i ditt projekt?

3 - "kändis"-föredrag. Givet att vi får sponsorer, så kan vi ju faktiskt bjuda
    in någon person (betald resa plus uppehälla) som kan gästföreläsa. Det kan
    nog inte vara en super-star som Stallman eller Torvalds, men det kanske
    finns andra att fundera över?

Enligt enkäten är spår alternativ 1 mer efterfrågat och dessutom är det 
enklare att sätta upp för oss som försöker hålla i trådarna, men jag är ändå 
intresserad av feedback och ideer.

Vad tycker ni?

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hej

jag är nybörjare och vet inte hur jag ska bidra, så jag tycker att #2 
låter underbart!

Passar på och erbjuder min hjälp till vad det kan behövas den 19 maj.

Pamela

Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> Hejsan alla!
>
> Siktet är nu inställt på ett foss-sthlm #2 den 19:e maj. Samma lokal 
> som förra gången är "prelbokad".
>
> Läge att börja fundera på vad vi vill höra eller göra nästa gång, helt 
> enkelt!
>
> Som jag ser det finns det några olika huvudspår att välja på, med 
> respektive subalternativ:
>
> 1 - ett liknande möte som #1 med N stycken föredrag. Vilka föredrag 
> tycker ni
>     skulle göra ett bra möte #2? Eller vilka föredrag skulle du villa 
> HÅLLA
>     nästa gång?
>
> 2 - ett möte med N stycken föredrag på ett tema, kanske följt av någon 
> typ av
>     diskussion/frågestund/panel-debatt. Lämpliga teman som kan vara
>     intressanta kan då vara t.ex
>     A) hur tar emot/hur välkomna nya bidrag/hur bidra till foss. Hur bör
>        projekt göra? Hur bör nykomlingar göra? Vad gör det svårt?
>     B) pengar och foss - hur tjäna pengar, hur köpa foss-tjänster, hur 
> pengar
>        och foss-bidragande kan fungera tillsammans (eller inte). Hur 
> funkar
>        pengar för olika licenser eller projekt?
>     C) licenser. Vilka licenser används till vad? Vad är skillanden på 
> dem
>        enligt vem? Varför ska du/vi/ni välja licens X (eller inte). 
> License
>        violations - hur hittar man och vad gör man? Juridik?
>     D) säkerhet. hur gör man säker foss. Hur hittar man osäker foss? Hur
>        hanterar du rappoerterade säkerhetsproblem i ditt projekt?
>
> 3 - "kändis"-föredrag. Givet att vi får sponsorer, så kan vi ju 
> faktiskt bjuda
>    in någon person (betald resa plus uppehälla) som kan gästföreläsa. 
> Det kan
>    nog inte vara en super-star som Stallman eller Torvalds, men det 
> kanske
>    finns andra att fundera över?
>
> Enligt enkäten är spår alternativ 1 mer efterfrågat och dessutom är 
> det enklare att sätta upp för oss som försöker hålla i trådarna, men 
> jag är ändå intresserad av feedback och ideer.
>
> Vad tycker ni?
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<br>
jag &auml;r nyb&ouml;rjare och vet inte hur jag ska bidra, s&aring; jag tycker att #2
l&aring;ter underbart!<br>
<br>
Passar p&aring; och erbjuder min hj&auml;lp till vad det kan beh&ouml;vas den 19 maj.<br>
<br>
Pamela<br>
<br>
Daniel Stenberg wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:alpine.DEB.2.00.1003022145250.27560@tvnag.unkk.fr"
 type="cite">Hejsan alla!
  <br>
  <br>
Siktet &auml;r nu inst&auml;llt p&aring; ett foss-sthlm #2 den 19:e maj. Samma lokal
som f&ouml;rra g&aring;ngen &auml;r "prelbokad".
  <br>
  <br>
L&auml;ge att b&ouml;rja fundera p&aring; vad vi vill h&ouml;ra eller g&ouml;ra n&auml;sta g&aring;ng, helt
enkelt!
  <br>
  <br>
Som jag ser det finns det n&aring;gra olika huvudsp&aring;r att v&auml;lja p&aring;, med
respektive subalternativ:
  <br>
  <br>
1 - ett liknande m&ouml;te som #1 med N stycken f&ouml;redrag. Vilka f&ouml;redrag
tycker ni
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; skulle g&ouml;ra ett bra m&ouml;te #2? Eller vilka f&ouml;redrag skulle du villa
H&Aring;LLA
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; n&auml;sta g&aring;ng?
  <br>
  <br>
2 - ett m&ouml;te med N stycken f&ouml;redrag p&aring; ett tema, kanske f&ouml;ljt av n&aring;gon
typ av
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; diskussion/fr&aring;gestund/panel-debatt. L&auml;mpliga teman som kan vara
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; intressanta kan d&aring; vara t.ex
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A) hur tar emot/hur v&auml;lkomna nya bidrag/hur bidra till foss. Hur
b&ouml;r
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; projekt g&ouml;ra? Hur b&ouml;r nykomlingar g&ouml;ra? Vad g&ouml;r det sv&aring;rt?
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; B) pengar och foss - hur tj&auml;na pengar, hur k&ouml;pa foss-tj&auml;nster, hur
pengar
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; och foss-bidragande kan fungera tillsammans (eller inte). Hur
funkar
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pengar f&ouml;r olika licenser eller projekt?
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; C) licenser. Vilka licenser anv&auml;nds till vad? Vad &auml;r skillanden p&aring;
dem
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; enligt vem? Varf&ouml;r ska du/vi/ni v&auml;lja licens X (eller inte).
License
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; violations - hur hittar man och vad g&ouml;r man? Juridik?
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; D) s&auml;kerhet. hur g&ouml;r man s&auml;ker foss. Hur hittar man os&auml;ker foss?
Hur
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hanterar du rappoerterade s&auml;kerhetsproblem i ditt projekt?
  <br>
  <br>
3 - "k&auml;ndis"-f&ouml;redrag. Givet att vi f&aring;r sponsorer, s&aring; kan vi ju
faktiskt bjuda
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; in n&aring;gon person (betald resa plus uppeh&auml;lla) som kan g&auml;stf&ouml;rel&auml;sa.
Det kan
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; nog inte vara en super-star som Stallman eller Torvalds, men det
kanske
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; finns andra att fundera &ouml;ver?
  <br>
  <br>
Enligt enk&auml;ten &auml;r sp&aring;r alternativ 1 mer efterfr&aring;gat och dessutom &auml;r det
enklare att s&auml;tta upp f&ouml;r oss som f&ouml;rs&ouml;ker h&aring;lla i tr&aring;darna, men jag &auml;r
&auml;nd&aring; intresserad av feedback och ideer.
  <br>
  <br>
Vad tycker ni?
  <br>
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Pamela Fuentes wrote:

> jag är nybörjare och vet inte hur jag ska bidra, så jag tycker att #2 låter 
> underbart!

Just nu är det mest att lufta sina åsikter om hur man vill att #2 ska eller 
inte ska vara.

> Passar på och erbjuder min hjälp till vad det kan behövas den 19 maj.

Tack!

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Hej allihop!

Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> Hejsan alla!
> =

> Siktet =E4r nu inst=E4llt p=E5 ett foss-sthlm #2 den 19:e maj. Samma loka=
l som =

> f=F6rra g=E5ngen =E4r "prelbokad".

L=E5ter bra!

> L=E4ge att b=F6rja fundera p=E5 vad vi vill h=F6ra eller g=F6ra n=E4sta g=
=E5ng, helt =

> enkelt!
> =

> Som jag ser det finns det n=E5gra olika huvudsp=E5r att v=E4lja p=E5, med =

> respektive subalternativ:
> =

> 1 - ett liknande m=F6te som #1 med N stycken f=F6redrag. Vilka f=F6redrag =

> tycker ni
>     skulle g=F6ra ett bra m=F6te #2? Eller vilka f=F6redrag skulle du vil=
la H=C5LLA
>     n=E4sta g=E5ng?

Personligen skulle jag nog gilla 3 timmar eller kanske 4 med en lite =

l=E4ngre mingelpaus. N=E4sta g=E5ng tror jag ocks=E5 att aningens l=E4ngre =
(och =

d=E4rmed aningens f=E4rre) dragningar kan vara smart.

Ett annat "format" som =E4r riktigt trevligt =E4r ju n=E4r man helt enkelt =

smackar upp ett g=E4ng bord, en dr=F6s med eluttag, fri wifi till n=E4tet o=
ch =

helt enkelt sl=E5r sig ner med avsikten att visa n=E5got, sitta och hacka =

tillsammans typ. L=E5ter ju s=E5klart galet improvisatoriskt men brukar =

funka! :) Man kan ocks=E5 ha en eller tv=E5 projektorer riggade f=F6r sm=E5 =

"minivisningar".

Med samma uppslutning som f=F6rra g=E5ngen beh=F6vs det dock m=E5nga bord o=
ch =

stolar - tror inte det lirar i en h=F6rsal eftersom det =E4r b=F6kigt att =

"traska omkring" och man kan inte l=E4tt sl=E5 sig ner bredvid n=E5gon etc.

Denna spontana "del" tycker jag brukar vara det mest stimulerande p=E5 =

alla utvecklarkonferenser jag bes=F6kt.

> 2 - ett m=F6te med N stycken f=F6redrag p=E5 ett tema, kanske f=F6ljt av =
n=E5gon =

> typ av
>     diskussion/fr=E5gestund/panel-debatt. L=E4mpliga teman som kan vara
>     intressanta kan d=E5 vara t.ex
>     A) hur tar emot/hur v=E4lkomna nya bidrag/hur bidra till foss. Hur b=
=F6r
>        projekt g=F6ra? Hur b=F6r nykomlingar g=F6ra? Vad g=F6r det sv=E5r=
t?
>     B) pengar och foss - hur tj=E4na pengar, hur k=F6pa foss-tj=E4nster, =
hur =

> pengar
>        och foss-bidragande kan fungera tillsammans (eller inte). Hur funk=
ar
>        pengar f=F6r olika licenser eller projekt?
>     C) licenser. Vilka licenser anv=E4nds till vad? Vad =E4r skillanden p=
=E5 dem
>        enligt vem? Varf=F6r ska du/vi/ni v=E4lja licens X (eller inte). L=
icense
>        violations - hur hittar man och vad g=F6r man? Juridik?
>     D) s=E4kerhet. hur g=F6r man s=E4ker foss. Hur hittar man os=E4ker fo=
ss? Hur
>        hanterar du rappoerterade s=E4kerhetsproblem i ditt projekt?

Det finns ju en rad tekniska teman ocks=E5 - tex "Programspr=E5k", =

"Webbutveckling", "Linux-distributioner", "Virtualisering" yaddayadda.

> 3 - "k=E4ndis"-f=F6redrag. Givet att vi f=E5r sponsorer, s=E5 kan vi ju f=
aktiskt =

> bjuda
>    in n=E5gon person (betald resa plus uppeh=E4lla) som kan g=E4stf=F6rel=
=E4sa. =

> Det kan
>    nog inte vara en super-star som Stallman eller Torvalds, men det kanske
>    finns andra att fundera =F6ver?

Jag kan t=E4nka mig flera namn, men d=E5 beh=F6vs det kanske "mer" =E4n bar=
a en =

3-timmars session en kv=E4ll. F=F6r att n=E5gon skall orka =E5ka t=E5g/flyg=
 till =

Stockholm menar jag. Och tillst=E4llningen b=F6r d=E5 antagligen ha ett tem=
a =

runt den personens omr=E5de.

mvh G=F6ran

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2010/3/4 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>:
> =A0 =A0B) pengar och foss - hur tj=E4na pengar, hur k=F6pa foss-tj=E4nste=
r, hur pengar
> =A0 =A0 =A0 och foss-bidragande kan fungera tillsammans (eller inte). Hur=
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 pengar f=F6r olika licenser eller projekt?

Ut=F6ver det n=F6rderi som jag =E4r intresserad av (utan inb=F6rdes ordning=
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a: inbyggda system,
Debian, massiv databehandling, programspr=E5k etc) =E4r jag f=F6r tillf=E4l=
let
mest intresserad av hur jag kan betala hyran genom att i s=E5 l=E5ng
utstr=E4ckning som m=F6jligt (helst 100%) utveckla FLOSS.


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On Mar 4, 2010, at 17:25, Daniel Stenberg wrote:

> Hejsan alla!
> =

> Siktet =E4r nu inst=E4llt p=E5 ett foss-sthlm #2 den 19:e maj. Samma loka=
l som f=F6rra g=E5ngen =E4r "prelbokad".
> =

> L=E4ge att b=F6rja fundera p=E5 vad vi vill h=F6ra eller g=F6ra n=E4sta g=
=E5ng, helt enkelt!
> =

> Som jag ser det finns det n=E5gra olika huvudsp=E5r att v=E4lja p=E5, med=
 respektive subalternativ:

snip %<

> =

> Enligt enk=E4ten =E4r sp=E5r alternativ 1 mer efterfr=E5gat och dessutom =
=E4r det enklare att s=E4tta upp f=F6r oss som f=F6rs=F6ker h=E5lla i tr=E5=
darna, men jag =E4r =E4nd=E5 intresserad av feedback och ideer.
> =

> Vad tycker ni?


I missed the first meeting unfortunately due to 'force majeure' (tack SJ!).=
  I think a meeting in the style of 1 would be the best choice for someone =
like me. I am traveling a long way, I'll want to get a lot of info, so an o=
verview of cool projects or methodologies would be great. Plus the chance t=
o speak informally to those who participate would be really great as well.

Jeremiah
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Ohoj, =


Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 g=E5r i =E5r av stapeln den 1:a och 2:a maj p=E5 =
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Mer information p=E5 http://npw2010.fsfi.is/

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Yay! I just registered. =


Still, it is a little bit fail that the registration is done with a php scr=
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> =

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> =

> Mer information p=E5 http://npw2010.fsfi.is/
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Mors!

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Hej.
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Daniel Stenberg skrev:
> Mors!
>
> Om ett företag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden för extra 
> grejor vid ett foss-sthlm möte. Typ betalar mackor och dricka för alla 
> etc, vad kan vi erbjuda detta företag i gengäld som tack för sponsringen?
>
> Är det okej att tillåta dem att maila alla anmälda (en gång, ett mail) ?
>
> Är det okej att låta sponsorn berätta om något de har på hjärtat i 
> några minuter på en träff? (som kanske då egentligen inte är direkt 
> relaterat till resten av mötets ämne)
>
> Vad säger ni?
>
> Jag frågar nu för jag har diskussioner just nu med företag som vill 
> synas, och de vill göra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni känner 
> att gränsen går. Personligen kan jag gå med på lite av varje för att 
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Absolut INTE n&aring;got mail.<br>
mvh// Jan P<br>
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Daniel Stenberg skrev:
<blockquote cite="mid:alpine.DEB.2.00.1003150021140.9005@tvnag.unkk.fr"
 type="cite">Mors!
  <br>
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Om ett f&ouml;retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f&ouml;r extra grejor
vid ett foss-sthlm m&ouml;te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f&ouml;r alla etc,
vad kan vi erbjuda detta f&ouml;retag i geng&auml;ld som tack f&ouml;r sponsringen?
  <br>
  <br>
&Auml;r det okej att till&aring;ta dem att maila alla anm&auml;lda (en g&aring;ng, ett mail)
?
  <br>
  <br>
&Auml;r det okej att l&aring;ta sponsorn ber&auml;tta om n&aring;got de har p&aring; hj&auml;rtat i
n&aring;gra minuter p&aring; en tr&auml;ff? (som kanske d&aring; egentligen inte &auml;r direkt
relaterat till resten av m&ouml;tets &auml;mne)
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  <br>
Vad s&auml;ger ni?
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synas, och de vill g&ouml;ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni k&auml;nner
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Om f=F6retag vill sponsra ett m=F6te =E4r det kanske b=E4st att vi ger dem =
tid p=E5
m=F6tet f=F6r att ber=E4tta vad de har p=E5 hj=E4rtat, distribuera material=
 i
pappersformat/usb-stickor och sedan l=E5ta det vara upp till oss att h=F6ra=
 av
oss om det =E4r n=E5got av intresse?

Min erfarenhet =E4r att det brukar det vara l=E4tt f=F6r f=F6retag att b=F6=
rja med
spamming av n=E5gon typ, =E4ven n=E4r n=E5got annat best=E4ms fr=E5n f=F6rs=
ta b=F6rjan.

/David


2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>

> Mors!
>
> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
or vid
> ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc, vad =
kan vi
> erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r sponsringen?
>
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?
>
> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i n=E5gra
> minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r direkt rel=
aterat till
> resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)
>
> Vad s=E4ger ni?
>
> Jag fr=E5gar nu f=F6r jag har diskussioner just nu med f=F6retag som vill=
 synas,
> och de vill g=F6ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni k=E4nner att gr=
=E4nsen
> g=E5r. Personligen kan jag g=E5 med p=E5 lite av varje f=F6r att se till =
att vi kan
> forts=E4tta ha bra gratis evenemang.
>
> --
>
>  / daniel.haxx.se
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s att h=F6ra av oss om det =E4r n=E5got av intresse?=A0<div>
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2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@ha=
xx.se">daniel@haxx.se</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Mor=
s!<br>

<br>
Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grejor=
 vid ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc, v=
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r>
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ynas, och de vill g=F6ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni k=E4nner at=
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Kommer inte att =E5ka p=E5 NPW men jag kommer fr=E5n Island s=E5 om n=E5gon=
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> Ohoj,
>
> Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 g=E5r i =E5r av stapeln den 1:a och 2:a maj p=
=E5
> Island. S=E5 nu har ni en utm=E4rkt anledning att bes=F6ka =F6n om ni ald=
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> d=E4r.
>
> Mer information p=E5 http://npw2010.fsfi.is/
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<div><br></div>Kommer inte att =E5ka p=E5 NPW men jag kommer fr=E5n Island =
s=E5 om n=E5gon beh=F6ver hj=E4lp med n=E5got som har med resan att g=F6ra =
s=E5 kan ni h=F6ra av er.<div><br></div><div>/David</div><div><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">
2010/3/13 Claes Jakobsson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:claes@ver=
sed.se">claes@versed.se</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">O=
hoj,<br>

<br>
Nordic Perl Workshop 2010 g=E5r i =E5r av stapeln den 1:a och 2:a maj p=E5 =
Island. S=E5 nu har ni en utm=E4rkt anledning att bes=F6ka =F6n om ni aldri=
g varit d=E4r.<br>
<br>
Mer information p=E5 <a href=3D"http://npw2010.fsfi.is/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://npw2010.fsfi.is/</a><br>
<br>
/Claes<br>
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u ju f=C3=A5 m=C3=B6jlighet att l=C3=A4gga lite reklampapper p=C3=A5 ett bo=
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Mail k=E4nns osmart att s=E4ga ja till.

Sponsorer som =E4r med p=E5 tr=E4ff trodde jag vi hade =E4ven f=F6rra g=E5n=
gen fast
de =E4r med i n=E4tverket. Det =E4r absolut att f=F6redra framf=F6r sponsor=
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Det =E4r sv=E5rt att ha en best=E4md =E5sikt d=E5 man inte vet var det land=
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Lite diskret reklam st=F6r s=E4kert inte, men blir det v=E4rre betalar jag =
nog
hellre f=F6r mackan.
//PG

m=E5n 2010-03-15 klockan 00:27 +0100 skrev Daniel Stenberg:
> Mors!
> =

> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
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> =

> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?
> =

> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
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Hej,

N=E4r det g=E4ller mail, s=E5 helst inte mail direkt till deltagarna. Varf=
=F6r
inte skicka ut ett officiellt inbjudningsmail till respektive tr=E4ff. I
det s=E5 kan sponsorer var med med n=E5gra rader var. Sedan kan man ju
k=F6ra visitkortstombola om man vill samla kontakter.

P=E5 sj=E4lva eventet s=E5 har jag inget emot att dagens sponsorer f=E5r n=
=E5gra
minuter var. Schemal=E4gg 15 minuter intro varje g=E5ng d=E4r sponsorer kan
vara med, tillsammans med en =F6vergripande presentation av
f=F6rel=E4sningarna, etc.

F=F6r =F6vrigt tycker jag att iden med sponsorer =E4r bra - f=F6retag beh=
=F6vs f=F6r FOSS.

MVH

Johan Thelin

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2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>:
> Mors!
>
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>
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?
>
> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i n=E5gra
> minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r direkt rel=
aterat till
> resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)
>
> Vad s=E4ger ni?
>
> Jag fr=E5gar nu f=F6r jag har diskussioner just nu med f=F6retag som vill=
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2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>:
> Mors!
>
> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
or vid
> ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc, vad =
kan vi
> erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r sponsringen?
>
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?

H=E5ller med =F6vriga h=E4r, absolut inte. Mycket b=E4ttre i s=E5 fall med
visitkortstombola eller liknande vid tr=E4ffen. Listor med e-mail
addresser har en tendens att missbrukas, vad som =E4n s=E4gs
inledningsvis.

> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i n=E5gra
> minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r direkt rel=
aterat till
> resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)

Det l=E5ter v=E4ldigt rimligt, men inte n=E5n l=E4ngre stund, kanske 5 minu=
ter
per sponsor?

> Vad s=E4ger ni?
>
> Jag fr=E5gar nu f=F6r jag har diskussioner just nu med f=F6retag som vill=
 synas,
> och de vill g=F6ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni k=E4nner att gr=
=E4nsen
> g=E5r. Personligen kan jag g=E5 med p=E5 lite av varje f=F6r att se till =
att vi kan
> forts=E4tta ha bra gratis evenemang.
>

Sj=E4lvklart prominent placering p=E5 hemsidan och omn=E4mnande i kallelser.
Mycket mer tror jag inte beh=F6vs i nuvarande form. kostnaderna (och
d=E4rmed =E4ven storleken p=E5 sponsring) =E4r ju =E4nd=E5 relativt liten o=
m man
f=E5r d=F6ma av senaste m=F6tet.


Mvh
Lasse

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Daniel Stenberg skrev 2010-03-15 00:27:
> Mors!

Mors!

> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
or
> vid ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc, =
vad
> kan vi erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r sponsringen?

Jag kan t=E4nka mig att sponsra ett m=F6te :-). F=F6r att det skall vara
avdragsgillt m=E5ste man f=E5 n=E5got i utbyte.

> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?

Nej, det tycker inte jag.

> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i n=E5gra
> minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r direkt rel=
aterat
> till resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)

Det l=E5ter bra. Naturligtvis b=F6r man f=F6rs=F6ka hitta en sponsor som pa=
ssar
in till resten av m=F6tet.

> Vad s=E4ger ni?

En annan sak som brukar vara vanligt =E4r att sponsorn exponeras i utskick
och liknande. I detta fall skulle de kunna st=E5 p=E5 hemsidan att n=E4sta
m=F6te sponsras av XXX, kanske med logga, och sedan en liten lista med
tidigare sponsorer (bara text, utan logga).

En s=E5dan exponering b=E5de h=E5lla b=E5de f=F6retagen och deras revisorer=
 n=F6jda.
Jag tycker sedan inte att man skall skilja p=E5 material som l=E4ggs p=E5
bordet om de kommer fr=E5n den "officiella" sponsorn eller andra. Id=E9n med
ett fritt bort d=E4r vem som helst kan l=E4gga material tycker jag vi skall
ha kvar.

Ha en bra vecka!

  /Marcus

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2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>:
> Mors!
>
> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
or vid
> ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc, vad =
kan vi
> erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r sponsringen?
>
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett =
mail) ?

Som alla andra redan sagt, det tycker jag inte. D=E4remot kan man
m=F6jligen till=E5ta ett "reklam-mail" till *listan* i samband med det, om
man ska till=E5ta n=E5got. Det =E4r stor skillnad d=E4r - f=F6r d=E5 "ser" =
de inte
sj=E4lva mailadresserna, och petar inte in dem i sitt CRM-system..


> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i n=E5gra
> minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r direkt rel=
aterat till
> resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)

Det tycker jag kan vara helt ok.

En variant man ganska ofta ser p=E5 en "full-l=E4ngdskonferens" =E4r att
st=F6rre sponsorer f=E5r m=F6jlighet att v=E4lja en eller flera sessioner f=
r=E5n
sina anst=E4llda, oberoende av vanliga programmet. S=E5 kan man f=E5 in
f=F6redrag som arrang=F6rerna annars inte skulle ta med. Det g=E5r ju att
k=F6ra n=E5gon variant p=E5 det ocks=E5 - att man f=E5r en garanterad tid u=
nder
m=F6tet f=F6r n=E5got som *=E4r* i linje med det - allts=E5 en typisk
FOSS-presentation, men att de f=E5r v=E4lja =E4mne helt.


Om de tycker det ger n=E5got s=E5 kan v=E4l en s=E5dan sponsor f=E5 st=E4ll=
a upp
en rollup och s=E5dant l=E4ngst fram i rummet, tycker jag.

Samt dela ut "reklamblad" (eller bara l=E4gga p=E5 ett bord) f=F6rst=E5s. M=
en
d=E5 =E4r fr=E5gan snarare om man ska begr=E4nsa *andras* m=F6jlighet att g=
=F6ra
det, f=F6r p=E5 f=F6rsta m=F6tet fick ju vem som helst g=F6ra det, elle rhu=
r?
Inte bara sponsorer...

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On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:27 AM, Daniel Stenberg wrote:

> Mors!
>=20
> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra =
grejor vid ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r =
alla etc, vad kan vi erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r =
sponsringen?
>=20
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, =
ett mail) ?
>=20
> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 =
hj=E4rtat i n=E5gra minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen =
inte =E4r direkt relaterat till resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)
>=20
> Vad s=E4ger ni?
>=20
> Jag fr=E5gar nu f=F6r jag har diskussioner just nu med f=F6retag som =
vill synas, och de vill g=F6ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni =
k=E4nner att gr=E4nsen g=E5r. Personligen kan jag g=E5 med p=E5 lite av =
varje f=F6r att se till att vi kan forts=E4tta ha bra gratis evenemang.

Min erfarenhet fr=E5n diverse engagemang =E4r att man kan l=E5ta dem =
prata en bit om sig sj=E4lva och sitt engagemang i n=E5gra minuter =
(eller l=E4ngre, beroende p=E5 sammanhang), dels ha rollups eller vepor =
med sin logotyp uppsatta, och ett litet b=E5s med information och vad de =
nu har. Detta beroende p=E5 hur mycket de bidrar med i sponsorpengar =
givetvis.

Om det nu finns ett stort intresse f=F6r sponsorskap kan man ju l=E5ta =
andra sponsorer bjuda p=E5 baren efter=E5t ocks=E5, men d=E5 f=E5r de ju =
styra exakt hur det ska fungera.

Inga mail...


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On 15 mar 2010, at 00.27, Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> Mors!
> =

> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra grej=
or vid ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r alla etc,=
 vad kan vi erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r sponsringen?

Det enda jag inte tycker =E4r ok =E4r dom f=E5r e-post databasen f=F6r att =
g=F6ra utskick f=F6r det kommer leda till att man hamnar p=E5 n=E5gon lista=
. Sen =E4r det ju ocks=E5 lite en fr=E5ga vad DSV g=E5r med p=E5, t.ex. om =
dom f=E5r ha en roll-up. =


Men att erbjuda t.ex. 5 minuter i b=F6rjan eller kanske b=E4ttre mitten av =
m=F6tet d=E5 fler =E4r n=E4rvarande =E4r en bra id=E9. Och att de f=E5r sit=
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Jag tror dock det kommer vara r=E4tt individuellt vad respektive f=F6retag =
f=F6rv=E4ntar sig f=F6r motprestation s=E5 vad har de efterfr=E5gat?

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Claes Jakobsson wrote:

> Jag tror dock det kommer vara rätt individuellt vad respektive företag 
> förväntar sig för motprestation så vad har de efterfrågat?

I en specifik diskussion med ett företag som jag har för tillfället så har de 
mest frågat vad vi kan erbjuda för något och de nämnde lite olika alternativ 
som de skulle kunna tänka sig (där mail till de anmälda var ett av dem). Jag 
har inte sagt varken bu ellre bä till några såna saker utan jag ska återkomma 
och fortsätta diskussionen inom någon vecka eller så.

Diskusssionen och feedbacken jag fått hittills på listan har varit mycket bra 
och nyttig i min vidare kommunikation med detta och andra företag.

Låt mig också få påpeka att ifall DU eller DITT företag vill sponsra, maila 
gärna mig privat så kan vi diskutera upplägg, summor och sånt.

Patriks förslag om någon sponsrad dricka efter mötet är ju en bra idé. Någon 
som ställer upp?

Tack alla, och fortsätt gärna komma med ideer och förslag runt hur vi kan och 
bör hantera detta!

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Hejsan!

Claes Jakobsson wrote:
> Jag tror dock det kommer vara rätt individuellt vad respektive företag förväntar sig för motprestation så vad har de efterfrågat?

Vi från MSC efterfrågade egentligen ingenting, däremot kläckte väl jag 
eller någon annan idén med bordet där man kan lägga flyers etc. Men det 
bordet skall ju inte vara begränsat till "sponsorer".

Tanken med ett bord för "riktiga open source-projekt" och ett annat med 
annan info låter ju bra i teorin - men det kan bli en knepig 
bedömningsfråga.

Vi från MSC är nöjda i och med att vi sponsrat (en trevlig grej), att vi 
spred lite flyers via bordet samt att sponsringen omnämndes. Vidare 
kanske vi byggt upp lite "goodwill" så att vi inte blev helt stekta när 
vi sedan fiskade lite efter duktigt folk på listan att rekrytera. :)

Sedan kanske vi inte behöver problematisera hur mycket som helst, ifall 
ett företag "missköter" sig så ger det ju en total negativ nettoeffekt 
av hela sponsringen och jag tror inte att de företag vi pratar om är så 
pass... puckade. ;)

mvh Göran

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Hej alla,

=C4r fr=E5n en f=F6rening som heter Betahaus som jobbar med att ta fram FOS=
S  =

f=F6r andra f=F6reningar. (Kolla www.betahaus.net f=F6r mer av storyn.)

Hur som helst, vi har en lokal p=E5 Skeppsbron 30 p=E5 ca 125 kvm. Den  =

rymmer nog ett st=F6rre evenemang, och eftersom m=E5let med f=F6reningen =
=E4r  =

att sprida FOSS vill vi s=E5 klart vara med. Om ni vill f=E5r ni g=E4rna  =

l=E5na lokalen f=F6r eventet + att flera av oss kan st=E4lla upp och h=E5ll=
a  =

open space och dylikt.

D=E5 kanske ni knappt beh=F6ver en sponsor...?

N=E4r det g=E4ller f=F6rel=E4sningar och inneh=E5ll =E4r jag mer pepp p=E5 =
att prata  =

_med_ deltagarna =E4n att sitta tyst och lyssna. Det ger mycket b=E4ttre  =

utbyte - d=E4rav open space > f=F6rel=E4sning. Det =E4r verkligen p=E5 tide=
n att  =

det n=E4tverkas lite mer i FOSS-Stockholm!

Ha det fint,
Robin

ps. Sl=E5 g=E4rna en pling om det kan vara intressant. ds.
--
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15 mar 2010 kl. 00.27 skrev Daniel Stenberg:

> Mors!
>
> Om ett f=F6retag kliver fram och tar t.ex hela kostnaden f=F6r extra  =

> grejor vid ett foss-sthlm m=F6te. Typ betalar mackor och dricka f=F6r  =

> alla etc, vad kan vi erbjuda detta f=F6retag i geng=E4ld som tack f=F6r  =

> sponsringen?
>
> =C4r det okej att till=E5ta dem att maila alla anm=E4lda (en g=E5ng, ett  =

> mail) ?
>
> =C4r det okej att l=E5ta sponsorn ber=E4tta om n=E5got de har p=E5 hj=E4r=
tat i  =

> n=E5gra minuter p=E5 en tr=E4ff? (som kanske d=E5 egentligen inte =E4r di=
rekt  =

> relaterat till resten av m=F6tets =E4mne)
>
> Vad s=E4ger ni?
>
> Jag fr=E5gar nu f=F6r jag har diskussioner just nu med f=F6retag som vill=
  =

> synas, och de vill g=F6ra saker men jag vill veta lite var vi/ni  =

> k=E4nner att gr=E4nsen g=E5r. Personligen kan jag g=E5 med p=E5 lite av v=
arje  =

> f=F6r att se till att vi kan forts=E4tta ha bra gratis evenemang.
>
> -- =

>
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[Jag byter subject eftersom detta inte har med sponsring att g=F6ra.]

Robin Harms Oredsson wrote:
> Hur som helst, vi har en lokal p=E5 Skeppsbron 30 p=E5 ca 125 kvm. Den
> rymmer nog ett st=F6rre evenemang,

Senast var vi ~170 anm=E4lda, varav kanske 130 kom. Det blir ganska tr=E5ng=
t p=E5 125 kvm.

Vi har en kanonlokal i DSV som vi dessutom f=E5r l=E5na gratis.

> D=E5 kanske ni knappt beh=F6ver en sponsor...?

Pengar kan utr=E4tta mycket ut=F6ver att hyra lokal. Gratis mackor =E4r ju =
trevligt t.ex, eftersom vi tenderar att hamna mitt i maten tidsm=E4ssigt.

> N=E4r det g=E4ller f=F6rel=E4sningar och inneh=E5ll =E4r jag mer pepp p=
=E5 att
> prata _med_ deltagarna =E4n att sitta tyst och lyssna. Det ger mycket
> b=E4ttre utbyte - d=E4rav open space > f=F6rel=E4sning.

Samtal =E4r bra, men skalar d=E5ligt. Om du har konkreta id=E9er p=E5 hur m=
an f=E5r till kvalitativt "n=E4tverkande" med 150 personer f=E5r du g=E4rna=
 utvecklade dem. Min erfarnhet =E4r att en stor grupp m=E4nniskor i samma r=
um inte leder till s=E5 mycket n=E4tverkande. Folk tenderar att gruppera si=
g med dem de redan k=E4nner.

Kvalitativa samtal kr=E4ver mindre grupper, vilket n=E4stan per definition =
inneb=E4r sn=E4vare ramar/=E4mnen. Men enk=E4tsvaren fr=E5n f=F6rra m=F6tet=
 visade att bes=F6karna uppskattade det lite "spretiga" uppl=E4gget med bla=
ndade =E4mnen.

En given plats f=F6r klassiskt n=E4tverkande =E4r annars s=E5klart puben ef=
ter=E5t!

-- =

Bj=F6rn
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Hej!

=C4r ny p=E5 listan, s=E5 t=E4nkte jag kunde presentera mig. Hittade listan=
 via
Serengeti (http://serengeti.friprogramvarusyndikatet.org/ ) eller om det va=
r
Mosig (http://www.hack.org/mc/mosig.html )...

Hur som helst =E4r jag r=E4tt nybliven stockholmare (uppvuxen i Bor=E5s, oc=
h har
senast spenderat sex =E5r i Malm=F6). =C4r 30 =E5r och jobbar sedan en m=E5=
nad
tillbaka som webbansvarig p=E5 SSU. Jag =E4r kommunikationsvetare i f=F6rst=
a hand,
men =E4r r=E4tt s=E5 datan=F6rdig ocks=E5. Mitt fr=E4msta omr=E5de vad g=E4=
ller fri
programvara =E4r med Joomla. Sitter i Svenska Joomlaf=F6reningens styrelse =
som
suppleant sen f=F6rra =E5ret, och =E4r =E4ven med och ordnar JoomlaDay (
http://joomladay.se/ ) som =E4ger rum 23-24 april. Har haft r=E4tt stort id=
eellt
engagemang, bland annat inom djurr=E4ttsr=F6relsen, och =E4r webbansvarig f=
=F6r
Djurr=E4ttsalliansen (http://djurrattsalliansen.se/ - ocks=E5 Joomla). D=E4=
rut=F6ver
h=E4nger jag g=E4rna med min flickv=E4n, spelar basket samt k=F6r motorcyke=
l. Mer om
mig hittar ni p=E5:
http://sydsvenskan.se/familj/fodelsedag/article469958/Kartlagger-Malmos-fal=
afelstallen.html

Till sist kan jag tipsa om en sommarkurs som Ume=E5 Universitet k=F6r p=E5 =
distans
i sommar (sista anm=E4lningsdag i dag!) -
http://www.umu.se/utbildning/program-kurser/kurs/?code=3D2IN003

=D6ppenhet p=E5 Internet, 7.5 hp: Kursen fokuserar p=E5 det kunskapsf=E4lt =
inom
omr=E5det digitala kulturer som behandlar olika former av en =F6ppen kultur=
 p=E5
Internet. Under kursen behandlas d=E4rf=F6r bland annat Open Culture, Open
Source, Creative Commons, Open Access, olika former av kollaborativt
utvecklade produkter och tj=E4nster samt de aktuella r=F6relser p=E5 Intern=
et som
syftar till att =F6ka tillg=E4ngligheten till information i digital form.

/ Kristofer

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Hej!<br><br>=C4r ny p=E5 listan, s=E5 t=E4nkte jag kunde presentera mig. Hi=
ttade listan via Serengeti (<a href=3D"http://serengeti.friprogramvarusyndi=
katet.org/">http://serengeti.friprogramvarusyndikatet.org/</a> ) eller om d=
et var Mosig (<a href=3D"http://www.hack.org/mc/mosig.html">http://www.hack=
.org/mc/mosig.html</a> )...<br>
<br>Hur som helst =E4r jag r=E4tt nybliven stockholmare (uppvuxen i Bor=E5s=
, och har senast spenderat sex =E5r i Malm=F6). =C4r 30 =E5r och jobbar sed=
an en m=E5nad tillbaka som webbansvarig p=E5 SSU. Jag =E4r kommunikationsve=
tare i f=F6rsta hand, men =E4r r=E4tt s=E5 datan=F6rdig ocks=E5. Mitt fr=E4=
msta omr=E5de vad g=E4ller fri programvara =E4r med Joomla. Sitter i Svensk=
a Joomlaf=F6reningens styrelse som suppleant sen f=F6rra =E5ret, och =E4r =
=E4ven med och ordnar JoomlaDay (<a href=3D"http://joomladay.se/">http://jo=
omladay.se/</a> ) som =E4ger rum 23-24 april. Har haft r=E4tt stort ideellt=
 engagemang, bland annat inom djurr=E4ttsr=F6relsen, och =E4r webbansvarig =
f=F6r Djurr=E4ttsalliansen (<a href=3D"http://djurrattsalliansen.se/">http:=
//djurrattsalliansen.se/</a> - ocks=E5 Joomla). D=E4rut=F6ver h=E4nger jag =
g=E4rna med min flickv=E4n, spelar basket samt k=F6r motorcykel. Mer om mig=
 hittar ni p=E5: <a href=3D"http://sydsvenskan.se/familj/fodelsedag/article=
469958/Kartlagger-Malmos-falafelstallen.html">http://sydsvenskan.se/familj/=
fodelsedag/article469958/Kartlagger-Malmos-falafelstallen.html</a><br>
<br>Till sist kan jag tipsa om en sommarkurs som Ume=E5 Universitet k=F6r p=
=E5 distans i sommar (sista anm=E4lningsdag i dag!) - <a href=3D"http://www=
.umu.se/utbildning/program-kurser/kurs/?code=3D2IN003">http://www.umu.se/ut=
bildning/program-kurser/kurs/?code=3D2IN003</a><br>
<br>=D6ppenhet p=E5 Internet, 7.5 hp: Kursen fokuserar p=E5 det kunskapsf=
=E4lt inom omr=E5det digitala kulturer som behandlar olika former av en =F6=
ppen kultur p=E5 Internet. Under kursen behandlas d=E4rf=F6r bland annat Op=
en Culture, Open Source, Creative Commons, Open Access, olika former av kol=
laborativt utvecklade produkter och tj=E4nster samt de aktuella r=F6relser =
p=E5 Internet som syftar till att =F6ka tillg=E4ngligheten till information=
 i digital form.<br>
<br>/ Kristofer<br>

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Hejsan

För att börja jobba på programmet för möte #2 så bör vi få in så mycket info 
som möjligt om vilka föredragshållare som kan/vill komma på möte #2.

Därför: om du kan och vill snacka om något den 19:e maj, maila mig privat 
eller här på lsitan och nämn det/de föredrag du kan och vill hålla då. Jag tar 
mig friheten att skriva upp nya på talks-sidan (ifall de inte redan finns där) 
samt att inom någon tid bolla program-alternativ med er mina vänner här på 
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2010/3/15 Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>:
> Hejsan
>
> F=F6r att b=F6rja jobba p=E5 programmet f=F6r m=F6te #2 s=E5 b=F6r vi f=
=E5 in s=E5 mycket info
> som m=F6jligt om vilka f=F6redragsh=E5llare som kan/vill komma p=E5 m=F6t=
e #2.
>
> D=E4rf=F6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=E5got den 19:e maj, maila mig =
privat
> eller h=E4r p=E5 lsitan och n=E4mn det/de f=F6redrag du kan och vill h=E5=
lla d=E5. Jag
> tar mig friheten att skriva upp nya p=E5 talks-sidan (ifall de inte redan
> finns d=E4r) samt att inom n=E5gon tid bolla program-alternativ med er mi=
na
> v=E4nner h=E4r p=E5 listan.

De omr=E5den d=E4r jag vet och/eller k=E4nner att jag kan tillf=F6ra n=E5go=
t st=E5r kvar p=E5
f=F6redragslistan.

N=E5got jag personligen g=E4rna vill se =E4r synvinklar som relaterar till,=
 t ex,
klass/k=F6n/etnicitet inom FOSS. Vi kan ju b=F6rja med v=E5r grupp h=E4r so=
m jag tycker
verkar vara s=E5 mycket vita (medelklassiga?) medel=E5lders m=E4n att jag i=
nte vet om
jag ska skratta eller gr=E5ta. De flesta andra FOSS-grupper ser likadana ut=
...
=C4r det s=E5 att den nu r=E5dande kulturen inom FOSS maximerar deltagandet=
 och
nyrekrytering fr=E5n samh=E4llets alla delar?

F=F6r inspiration till detta =E4mne rekommenderar jag starkt senaste numret=
 av den
feministiska tidsskriften BANG; som har den passande titeln N=F6rdarnas
=E5terkomst. R=E4ds ej, omn=E4mt =E4r: Open Source, Debian, Wikimedia+Wikip=
edia,
bloggar, star trek, surdegsbr=F6d, stickning och cyborgar. Det borde s=E5le=
des vara
gott om relevans f=F6r denna listas medlemmar.

   http://bang.se/artiklar/2010/nordarnas-aterkomst-2010-03-08

Jag t=E4nker mig att b=E4sta s=E4ttet att behandla detta =E4mne =E4r n=E5go=
n slags
paneldiskussion med folk fr=E5n skyttegravarna (FOSS-projekt o dyl). Eller =
kanske
att n=E5gon fr=E5n t ex WoMoz, Drupalchix, Linuxchix, etc, kommer och prese=
nterar.


-- Per
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Hejsan

Det finns ännu inget program, men sidan om möte #2 finns på:

 	http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote2.html

Vi tar nu emot anmälningar till möte #2, vilket görs bäst genom att man 
besöker:

 	http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/anmal.html

Notera gärna att vi den här gången vill ha ALLA anmälningar per email, så att 
vi kan få den extra-infon som efterfrågas på sidan ovan. Eventet på LinkedIn 
kan vi använda för att att det är kul och visa att vi tänker gå, men det är 
per mail vi vill ha det!

Hjälp gärna till och annonsera möte #2 på lämpliga forum så att alla som bör 
få reda på det gör det.

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Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> Hejsan
> 
> För att börja jobba på programmet för möte #2 så bör vi få in så mycket 
> info som möjligt om vilka föredragshållare som kan/vill komma på möte #2.
> 
> Därför: om du kan och vill snacka om något den 19:e maj, maila mig 
> privat eller här på lsitan och nämn det/de föredrag du kan och vill 
> hålla då. Jag tar mig friheten att skriva upp nya på talks-sidan (ifall 
> de inte redan finns där) samt att inom någon tid bolla 
> program-alternativ med er mina vänner här på listan.

Jag kommer och pratar gärna om exempelvis Seaside eller Smalltalk, båda 
dessa ämnen går att anpassa och få spännande både i kort eller längre 
format.

L27 som står på mig måste blivit lite fel - jag är visserligen 
programspråksfetischist och kan en del om det som beskrivs men jag tror 
inte det var jag som skrev den paragrafen.

mvh Göran

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hej

vilken bra id=E9 fr=E5n PER! Jag ocks=E5 vill g=E4rna h=F6ra vad "vi andra"=
 har
att s=E4ga om =E4mnet!  /Pam
> =

> N=E5got jag personligen g=E4rna vill se =E4r synvinklar som relaterar til=
l,
t
> ex,
> klass/k=F6n/etnicitet inom FOSS. Vi kan ju b=F6rja med v=E5r grupp h=E4r =
som
> jag tycker
> verkar vara s=E5 mycket vita (medelklassiga?) medel=E5lders m=E4n att jag
> inte vet om
> jag ska skratta eller gr=E5ta. De flesta andra FOSS-grupper ser likadana
> ut...
> =C4r det s=E5 att den nu r=E5dande kulturen inom FOSS maximerar deltagand=
et
> och
> nyrekrytering fr=E5n samh=E4llets alla delar?
> =

> F=F6r inspiration till detta =E4mne rekommenderar jag starkt senaste numr=
et
> av den
> feministiska tidsskriften BANG; som har den passande titeln N=F6rdarnas
> =E5terkomst. R=E4ds ej, omn=E4mt =E4r: Open Source, Debian,
> Wikimedia+Wikipedia,
> bloggar, star trek, surdegsbr=F6d, stickning och cyborgar. Det borde
> s=E5ledes vara
> gott om relevans f=F6r denna listas medlemmar.
> =

>    http://bang.se/artiklar/2010/nordarnas-aterkomst-2010-03-08
> =

> Jag t=E4nker mig att b=E4sta s=E4ttet att behandla detta =E4mne =E4r n=E5=
gon
> slags
> paneldiskussion med folk fr=E5n skyttegravarna (FOSS-projekt o dyl). Eller
> kanske
> att n=E5gon fr=E5n t ex WoMoz, Drupalchix, Linuxchix, etc, kommer och
> presenterar.
> =

> =

> -- Per
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2010/3/16 Pamela Fuentes <pam@trauco.com>

> hej
>
> vilken bra id=E9 fr=E5n PER! Jag ocks=E5 vill g=E4rna h=F6ra vad "vi andr=
a" har
> att s=E4ga om =E4mnet!  /Pam
>

H=E5ller med! Och l=E4s f=F6r all del artikeln i Bang (eller hela numret!),=
 den =E4r
mycket l=E4sv=E4rd.
Jag h=E5ller ocks=E5 med om att en paneldebatt eller liknande skulle kunna
passa v=E4lidigt bra. Jag =E4r =F6vertygad om att det beh=F6vs en diskussio=
n
kring detta =E4mne.

Cheers,
Hedda



> >
> > N=E5got jag personligen g=E4rna vill se =E4r synvinklar som relaterar t=
ill,
> t
> > ex,
> > klass/k=F6n/etnicitet inom FOSS. Vi kan ju b=F6rja med v=E5r grupp h=E4=
r som
> > jag tycker
> > verkar vara s=E5 mycket vita (medelklassiga?) medel=E5lders m=E4n att j=
ag
> > inte vet om
> > jag ska skratta eller gr=E5ta. De flesta andra FOSS-grupper ser likadan=
a
> > ut...
> > =C4r det s=E5 att den nu r=E5dande kulturen inom FOSS maximerar deltaga=
ndet
> > och
> > nyrekrytering fr=E5n samh=E4llets alla delar?
> >
> > F=F6r inspiration till detta =E4mne rekommenderar jag starkt senaste nu=
mret
> > av den
> > feministiska tidsskriften BANG; som har den passande titeln N=F6rdarnas
> > =E5terkomst. R=E4ds ej, omn=E4mt =E4r: Open Source, Debian,
> > Wikimedia+Wikipedia,
> > bloggar, star trek, surdegsbr=F6d, stickning och cyborgar. Det borde
> > s=E5ledes vara
> > gott om relevans f=F6r denna listas medlemmar.
> >
> >    http://bang.se/artiklar/2010/nordarnas-aterkomst-2010-03-08
> >
> > Jag t=E4nker mig att b=E4sta s=E4ttet att behandla detta =E4mne =E4r n=
=E5gon
> > slags
> > paneldiskussion med folk fr=E5n skyttegravarna (FOSS-projekt o dyl). El=
ler
> > kanske
> > att n=E5gon fr=E5n t ex WoMoz, Drupalchix, Linuxchix, etc, kommer och
> > presenterar.
> >
> >
> > -- Per
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/
> > http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss-sthlm
> --
> Open Source matters!
>
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/16 Pamela Fuentes <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pam@trauco.com">pam@trauco.com</a>&gt;</span><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
hej<br>
<br>
vilken bra id=E9 fr=E5n PER! Jag ocks=E5 vill g=E4rna h=F6ra vad &quot;vi a=
ndra&quot; har<br>
att s=E4ga om =E4mnet! =A0/Pam<br></blockquote><div><br>H=E5ller med! Och l=
=E4s f=F6r all del artikeln i Bang (eller hela numret!), den =E4r<br>mycket=
 l=E4sv=E4rd. <br>Jag h=E5ller ocks=E5 med om att en paneldebatt eller likn=
ande skulle kunna <br>
passa v=E4lidigt bra. Jag =E4r =F6vertygad om att det beh=F6vs en diskussio=
n<br>kring detta =E4mne.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Hedda<br><br>=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);=
 margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt;<br>
&gt; N=E5got jag personligen g=E4rna vill se =E4r synvinklar som relaterar =
till,<br>
t<br>
&gt; ex,<br>
&gt; klass/k=F6n/etnicitet inom FOSS. Vi kan ju b=F6rja med v=E5r grupp h=
=E4r som<br>
&gt; jag tycker<br>
&gt; verkar vara s=E5 mycket vita (medelklassiga?) medel=E5lders m=E4n att =
jag<br>
&gt; inte vet om<br>
&gt; jag ska skratta eller gr=E5ta. De flesta andra FOSS-grupper ser likada=
na<br>
&gt; ut...<br>
&gt; =C4r det s=E5 att den nu r=E5dande kulturen inom FOSS maximerar deltag=
andet<br>
&gt; och<br>
&gt; nyrekrytering fr=E5n samh=E4llets alla delar?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; F=F6r inspiration till detta =E4mne rekommenderar jag starkt senaste n=
umret<br>
&gt; av den<br>
&gt; feministiska tidsskriften BANG; som har den passande titeln N=F6rdarna=
s<br>
&gt; =E5terkomst. R=E4ds ej, omn=E4mt =E4r: Open Source, Debian,<br>
&gt; Wikimedia+Wikipedia,<br>
&gt; bloggar, star trek, surdegsbr=F6d, stickning och cyborgar. Det borde<b=
r>
&gt; s=E5ledes vara<br>
&gt; gott om relevans f=F6r denna listas medlemmar.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://bang.se/artiklar/2010/nordarnas-aterkomst-201=
0-03-08" target=3D"_blank">http://bang.se/artiklar/2010/nordarnas-aterkomst=
-2010-03-08</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jag t=E4nker mig att b=E4sta s=E4ttet att behandla detta =E4mne =E4r n=
=E5gon<br>
&gt; slags<br>
&gt; paneldiskussion med folk fr=E5n skyttegravarna (FOSS-projekt o dyl). E=
ller<br>
&gt; kanske<br>
&gt; att n=E5gon fr=E5n t ex WoMoz, Drupalchix, Linuxchix, etc, kommer och<=
br>
&gt; presenterar.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -- Per<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/" target=3D"_blank">http://foss-s=
thlm.haxx.se/</a><br>
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Per Andersson wrote:

> Jag tänker mig att bästa sättet att behandla detta ämne är någon slags 
> paneldiskussion med folk från skyttegravarna (FOSS-projekt o dyl). Eller 
> kanske att någon från t ex WoMoz, Drupalchix, Linuxchix, etc, kommer och 
> presenterar.

Jag tycker vi först kanske kan diskutera och fundera över under vilka former 
det bäst kan göras. Det måste ju inte nödvändigtvis knölas in på möte #2, men 
om vi jobbar fram en idé om hur det blir bäst så får vi se hur vi får till 
det. Vad sägs?

Vore kanske kul att fånga upp personer med olika tankar och olika vyer på 
området från olika projekt och köra en mer tema-grej? Jag har svårt att tro 
att man kan avhandla ämnet på något sånt vis rättvist inom 30-40 minuter... Är 
det folk här som vill snacka? Känner ni andra i området som vill vara med? 
Känner ni folk i foss-projekt som sticker ut kraftigt från normen eller som på 
något vis jobbar ordentligt för att göra det och som vill berätta om det?

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Hedvig Kamp wrote:
> =

> =

> 2010/3/16 Pamela Fuentes <pam@trauco.com <mailto:pam@trauco.com>>
> =

>     hej
> =

>     vilken bra id=E9 fr=E5n PER! Jag ocks=E5 vill g=E4rna h=F6ra vad "vi =
andra" har
>     att s=E4ga om =E4mnet!  /Pam
> =

> =

> H=E5ller med! Och l=E4s f=F6r all del artikeln i Bang (eller hela numret!=
), den =E4r
> mycket l=E4sv=E4rd.
> Jag h=E5ller ocks=E5 med om att en paneldebatt eller liknande skulle kunna
> passa v=E4lidigt bra. Jag =E4r =F6vertygad om att det beh=F6vs en diskuss=
ion
> kring detta =E4mne.

Inst=E4mmer, det =E4r ett intressant tema. Det =E4r =E4ven v=E4ldigt stort,=
 men =

man kan ju b=F6rja i n=E5gon =E4nde.

Jag =E4r visserligen b=E4ttre p=E5l=E4st ifr=E5ga om kvinnor i utpr=E4glat =
tekniska =

yrken i allm=E4nhet =E4n ifr=E5ga om andra =E4n medel=E5lders vita m=E4n in=
om FOSS i =

synnerhet, men jag kan erbjuda bakgrundshj=E4lp, att hj=E4lpa till med =

panelmoderering eller att sl=E5 ihop fem-tio minuters introduktion, om =

n=E5got av detta kan vara till nytta.

V=E4nliga h=E4lsningar

Monika

-- =

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Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> D=E4rf=F6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=E5got den 19:e maj, maila mig
> privat eller h=E4r p=E5 lsitan och n=E4mn det/de f=F6redrag du kan och vi=
ll
> h=E5lla d=E5.

Min introduktion till Rockbox under m=F6te #1 var ju uppskattad och om intr=
esse finns g=F6r jag g=E4rna djupare nedslag i delar av =E4mnet, s=E5som t.=
ex. det distribuerade byggsystemet (som snart andra projekt kan ta del av),=
 hur man reverse-engineerar en mp3-spelare eller kanske hur man skriver ett=
 FAT32-filsystem eller en USB-stack fr=E5n scratch.

Ett annat =E4mne som eventuellt kan intressera =E4r hur Debian fungerar med=
 sina olika utg=E5vor stable/testing/unstable/experimental. Det =E4r ganska=
 vanligt med missf=F6rst=E5nd och efterf=F6ljande frustration kring detta.

Sedan kan jag h=E5lla l=E5=E5=E5nga f=F6redrag om varf=F6r structar inte b=
=F6r typedef:as och n=F6dv=E4ndigheten med whitespace efter 'if'... ;-)

-- =

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Jag skulle vara MYCKET intresserad av det distruberade byggsystemet :)

Den 16 mars 2010 10.24 skrev Bj=F6rn Stenberg <bjorn@haxx.se>:
> Daniel Stenberg wrote:
>> D=E4rf=F6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=E5got den 19:e maj, maila mig
>> privat eller h=E4r p=E5 lsitan och n=E4mn det/de f=F6redrag du kan och v=
ill
>> h=E5lla d=E5.
>
> Min introduktion till Rockbox under m=F6te #1 var ju uppskattad och om in=
tresse finns g=F6r jag g=E4rna djupare nedslag i delar av =E4mnet, s=E5som =
t.ex. det distribuerade byggsystemet (som snart andra projekt kan ta del av=
), hur man reverse-engineerar en mp3-spelare eller kanske hur man skriver e=
tt FAT32-filsystem eller en USB-stack fr=E5n scratch.
>
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2010/3/16 Adam **** <adisbladis@m68k.se>

> Jag skulle vara MYCKET intresserad av det distruberade byggsystemet :)
>
> Den 16 mars 2010 10.24 skrev Bj=C3=B6rn Stenberg <bjorn@haxx.se>:
> > Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> >> D=C3=A4rf=C3=B6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=C3=A5got den 19:e maj=
, maila mig
> >> privat eller h=C3=A4r p=C3=A5 lsitan och n=C3=A4mn det/de f=C3=B6redra=
g du kan och vill
> >> h=C3=A5lla d=C3=A5.
> >
> > Min introduktion till Rockbox under m=C3=B6te #1 var ju uppskattad och =
om
> intresse finns g=C3=B6r jag g=C3=A4rna djupare nedslag i delar av =C3=A4m=
net, s=C3=A5som t.ex.
> det distribuerade byggsystemet (som snart andra projekt kan ta del av), h=
ur
> man reverse-engineerar en mp3-spelare eller kanske hur man skriver ett
> FAT32-filsystem eller en USB-stack fr=C3=A5n scratch.
> >
> > Ett annat =C3=A4mne som eventuellt kan intressera =C3=A4r hur Debian fu=
ngerar med
> sina olika utg=C3=A5vor stable/testing/unstable/experimental. Det =C3=A4r=
 ganska
> vanligt med missf=C3=B6rst=C3=A5nd och efterf=C3=B6ljande frustration kri=
ng detta.
> >
> > Sedan kan jag h=C3=A5lla l=C3=A5=C3=A5=C3=A5nga f=C3=B6redrag om varf=
=C3=B6r structar inte b=C3=B6r
> typedef:as och n=C3=B6dv=C3=A4ndigheten med whitespace efter 'if'... ;-)
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Jag skulle vara intresserad av b=C3=A5de distribuerade byggsystemet och hur=
 man
reverse engineerar en MP3.

Det enda jag skulle kunna bidra med =C3=A4r en talk om s=C3=A4kerhet och ka=
nske lite
om vad man borde t=C3=A4nka p=C3=A5 ang=C3=A5ende det. Ska till=C3=A4ggas a=
tt jag f=C3=B6rn=C3=A4rvarande
"bara" =C3=A4r en s=C3=A4kerhets entusiast men siktar p=C3=A5 att studera c=
ivilingenj=C3=B6r med
programmering och s=C3=A4kerhet i fokus samt utvecklare f=C3=B6r Gentoo Har=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/16 Adam **** <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:adisbladis@m68k.se">adisbladis@m68k.se</a>&gt;</span><br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Jag skulle vara MYCKET intresserad av det distruberade byggsystemet :)<br>
<br>
Den 16 mars 2010 10.24 skrev Bj=C3=B6rn Stenberg &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjor=
n@haxx.se">bjorn@haxx.se</a>&gt;:<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Daniel Stenberg wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; D=C3=A4rf=C3=B6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=C3=A5got den 19:e=
 maj, maila mig<br>
&gt;&gt; privat eller h=C3=A4r p=C3=A5 lsitan och n=C3=A4mn det/de f=C3=B6r=
edrag du kan och vill<br>
&gt;&gt; h=C3=A5lla d=C3=A5.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Min introduktion till Rockbox under m=C3=B6te #1 var ju uppskattad och=
 om intresse finns g=C3=B6r jag g=C3=A4rna djupare nedslag i delar av =C3=
=A4mnet, s=C3=A5som t.ex. det distribuerade byggsystemet (som snart andra p=
rojekt kan ta del av), hur man reverse-engineerar en mp3-spelare eller kans=
ke hur man skriver ett FAT32-filsystem eller en USB-stack fr=C3=A5n scratch=
.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; Ett annat =C3=A4mne som eventuellt kan intressera =C3=A4r hur Debian f=
ungerar med sina olika utg=C3=A5vor stable/testing/unstable/experimental. D=
et =C3=A4r ganska vanligt med missf=C3=B6rst=C3=A5nd och efterf=C3=B6ljande=
 frustration kring detta.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sedan kan jag h=C3=A5lla l=C3=A5=C3=A5=C3=A5nga f=C3=B6redrag om varf=
=C3=B6r structar inte b=C3=B6r typedef:as och n=C3=B6dv=C3=A4ndigheten med =
whitespace efter &#39;if&#39;... ;-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Bj=C3=B6rn<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/" target=3D"_blank">http://foss-s=
thlm.haxx.se/</a><br>
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rget=3D"_blank">http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss-sthlm</a>=
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&gt;<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Jag skulle vara intresserad av b=C3=
=A5de distribuerade byggsystemet och hur man reverse engineerar en MP3.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Det enda jag skulle kunna bidra med =C3=A4r en talk o=
m s=C3=A4kerhet och kanske lite om vad man borde t=C3=A4nka p=C3=A5 ang=C3=
=A5ende det. Ska till=C3=A4ggas att jag f=C3=B6rn=C3=A4rvarande &quot;bara&=
quot; =C3=A4r en s=C3=A4kerhets entusiast men siktar p=C3=A5 att studera ci=
vilingenj=C3=B6r med programmering och s=C3=A4kerhet i fokus samt utvecklar=
e f=C3=B6r Gentoo Hardened.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Daniel</div>

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Subject: Re: Vill och kan du snacka den 19:e maj?
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2010/3/16 Monika Orski <monika@orski.se>:
> Hedvig Kamp wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2010/3/16 Pamela Fuentes <pam@trauco.com <mailto:pam@trauco.com>>
>>
>> =A0 =A0hej
>>
>> =A0 =A0vilken bra id=E9 fr=E5n PER! Jag ocks=E5 vill g=E4rna h=F6ra vad =
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>> =A0 =A0att s=E4ga om =E4mnet! =A0/Pam
>>
>>
>> H=E5ller med! Och l=E4s f=F6r all del artikeln i Bang (eller hela numret=
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>> Jag h=E5ller ocks=E5 med om att en paneldebatt eller liknande skulle kun=
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>
> Inst=E4mmer, det =E4r ett intressant tema. Det =E4r =E4ven v=E4ldigt stor=
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anm=E4lde mig nu :)=20

> Date: Tue=2C 16 Mar 2010 00:08:26 +0100
> From: daniel@haxx.se
> To: foss-sthlm@cool.haxx.se
> Subject: anm=E4lan till m=F6te #2 =E4r nu =F6ppen!
>=20
> Hejsan
>=20
> Det finns =E4nnu inget program=2C men sidan om m=F6te #2 finns p=E5:
>=20
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15 mar 2010 kl. 17.02 skrev Bj=F6rn Stenberg:

> [Jag byter subject eftersom detta inte har med sponsring att g=F6ra.]

Helt r=E4tt, bra byte av =E4mnesrad :)

>
> Robin Harms Oredsson wrote:
>> Hur som helst, vi har en lokal p=E5 Skeppsbron 30 p=E5 ca 125 kvm. Den
>> rymmer nog ett st=F6rre evenemang,
>
> Senast var vi ~170 anm=E4lda, varav kanske 130 kom. Det blir ganska  =

> tr=E5ngt p=E5 125 kvm.
>
> Vi har en kanonlokal i DSV som vi dessutom f=E5r l=E5na gratis.

Lite mycket, det har du r=E4tt i.

>
>> D=E5 kanske ni knappt beh=F6ver en sponsor...?
>
> Pengar kan utr=E4tta mycket ut=F6ver att hyra lokal. Gratis mackor =E4r j=
u  =

> trevligt t.ex, eftersom vi tenderar att hamna mitt i maten  =

> tidsm=E4ssigt.
>
>> N=E4r det g=E4ller f=F6rel=E4sningar och inneh=E5ll =E4r jag mer pepp p=
=E5 att
>> prata _med_ deltagarna =E4n att sitta tyst och lyssna. Det ger mycket
>> b=E4ttre utbyte - d=E4rav open space > f=F6rel=E4sning.
>
> Samtal =E4r bra, men skalar d=E5ligt. Om du har konkreta id=E9er p=E5 hur=
  =

> man f=E5r till kvalitativt "n=E4tverkande" med 150 personer f=E5r du g=E4=
rna  =

> utvecklade dem. Min erfarnhet =E4r att en stor grupp m=E4nniskor i samma  =

> rum inte leder till s=E5 mycket n=E4tverkande. Folk tenderar att  =

> gruppera sig med dem de redan k=E4nner.
>
> Kvalitativa samtal kr=E4ver mindre grupper, vilket n=E4stan per  =

> definition inneb=E4r sn=E4vare ramar/=E4mnen. Men enk=E4tsvaren fr=E5n f=
=F6rra  =

> m=F6tet visade att bes=F6karna uppskattade det lite "spretiga" uppl=E4gge=
t  =

> med blandade =E4mnen.
>
> En given plats f=F6r klassiskt n=E4tverkande =E4r annars s=E5klart puben  =

> efter=E5t!

Det =E4r det open space =E4r till f=F6r:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_meeting

Vi har k=F6rt det p=E5 st=F6rre m=F6ten =E4n s=E5 med bra resultat. Man dis=
kuterar  =

utifr=E5n ett antal fr=E5gor, p=E5 s=E5 s=E4tt delar alla deltagare med sig=
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sina erfarenheter ist=E4llet f=F6r bara en f=F6rel=E4sare.

V=E4nligen,
Robin

>
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Bj=F6rn Stenberg wrote:
> Daniel Stenberg wrote:
>> D=E4rf=F6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=E5got den 19:e maj, maila m=
ig=20
>> privat eller h=E4r p=E5 lsitan och n=E4mn det/de f=F6redrag du kan och=
 vill
>>  h=E5lla d=E5.
>=20
> Min introduktion till Rockbox under m=F6te #1 var ju uppskattad och om
> intresse finns g=F6r jag g=E4rna djupare nedslag i delar av =E4mnet, s=E5=
som
> t.ex. det distribuerade byggsystemet (som snart andra projekt kan ta
> del av), hur man reverse-engineerar en mp3-spelare eller kanske hur
> man skriver ett FAT32-filsystem eller en USB-stack fr=E5n scratch.

Reverse engineering, filsystem och USB-stackar skulle jag uppskatta=20
presentationer om v=E4ldigt mycket (reverse engineering mest av de tre=20
=E4mnena). L=E5gniv=E5relaterade saker i allm=E4nhet precis s=E5nt jag gi=
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F=F6r =F6vrigt kan det vara tillf=E4lle att presentera mig. Jag pluggar f=
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Robin Harms Oredsson wrote:
> > Om du har konkreta id=E9er p=E5 hur man f=E5r till kvalitativt "n=E4tve=
rkande"
> > med 150 personer f=E5r du g=E4rna utvecklade dem.
>
> Det =E4r det open space =E4r till f=F6r:

Tja, det kan kanske vara en variant.

Kortversion f=F6r de som inte orkat l=E4sa: Open Space =E4r helt enkelt sj=
=E4lvorganiserade arbetsm=F6ten. F=F6rst samlas alla och listar ett antal p=
unkter/problem, sedan delar man in sig i grupper efter intresse och diskute=
rar/l=F6ser punkterna.

Vi har ju inga direkta problem att l=F6sa eller resultat att n=E5. Men vi h=
ar olika =E4mnen som =E4r roliga att prata om i mindre grupper.

En nackdel =E4r kanske att det blir lite andra lokalkrav. Det beh=F6vs b=E5=
de ett stort rum d=E4r alla deltagare ryms och sm=E5 rum f=F6r gruppdiskuss=
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16 mar 2010 kl. 16.14 skrev Bj=F6rn Stenberg:

> Robin Harms Oredsson wrote:
>>> Om du har konkreta id=E9er p=E5 hur man f=E5r till kvalitativt  =

>>> "n=E4tverkande"
>>> med 150 personer f=E5r du g=E4rna utvecklade dem.
>>
>> Det =E4r det open space =E4r till f=F6r:
>
> Tja, det kan kanske vara en variant.
>
> Kortversion f=F6r de som inte orkat l=E4sa: Open Space =E4r helt enkelt  =

> sj=E4lvorganiserade arbetsm=F6ten. F=F6rst samlas alla och listar ett  =

> antal punkter/problem, sedan delar man in sig i grupper efter  =

> intresse och diskuterar/l=F6ser punkterna.
>
> Vi har ju inga direkta problem att l=F6sa eller resultat att n=E5. Men  =

> vi har olika =E4mnen som =E4r roliga att prata om i mindre grupper.
>
> En nackdel =E4r kanske att det blir lite andra lokalkrav. Det beh=F6vs  =

> b=E5de ett stort rum d=E4r alla deltagare ryms och sm=E5 rum f=F6r  =

> gruppdiskussioner.


Kul att du =E4r intresserad av tanken!

Det g=E5r att g=F6ra i stora rum ocks=E5, eftersom man beh=F6ver kunna g=E5=
  =

mellan de olika stationerna n=E4r man har gjort sitt. Ex 4 h=F6rn eller  =

dylikt. Det =E4r =E4ven bra om det finns andra utrymmen i anslutning  =

naturligtvis.

Oftast deltar inte precis alla i diskussionen, och n=E5gra kanske kommer  =

p=E5 att de vill forka sin grupp under samtalet. Det =E4r naturligtvis  =

helt ok.

V=E4nligen,
Robin


>
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From: Daniel Melin <fulgubbe@gmail.com>
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On Monday 15 March 2010 23.04.54 Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> Hejsan
> =

> F=F6r att b=F6rja jobba p=E5 programmet f=F6r m=F6te #2 s=E5 b=F6r vi f=
=E5 in s=E5 mycket
>  info som m=F6jligt om vilka f=F6redragsh=E5llare som kan/vill komma p=E5=
 m=F6te #2.
> =

> D=E4rf=F6r: om du kan och vill snacka om n=E5got den 19:e maj, maila mig =
privat
> eller h=E4r p=E5 lsitan och n=E4mn det/de f=F6redrag du kan och vill h=E5=
lla d=E5. Jag
>  tar mig friheten att skriva upp nya p=E5 talks-sidan (ifall de inte redan
>  finns d=E4r) samt att inom n=E5gon tid bolla program-alternativ med er m=
ina
>  v=E4nner h=E4r p=E5 listan.
> =


Jag kan t=E4nka mig att h=E5lla en presentation om antingen, eller en kombi=
nation =

av:

Kammarkollegiets ramavtal som har b=E4ring p=E5 FOSS
LOU (Lagen om Offentlig Upphandling) och FOSS
Juridiska l=E4get g=E4llande FOSS i Sverige

Jag jobbar som upphandlare p=E5 IT-upphandlingen p=E5 Kammarkollegiet och a=
nsvarar =

f=F6r fr=E5gest=E4llningar om =F6ppna programvaror och en del relaterade =

konsulttj=E4nster. Har pysslat med FOSS sen sent 90-tal.

Sannolikt kommer jag att prata runt dessa =E4mnen p=E5 "=D6ppna ekosystem",=
 men det =

=E4r kanske inte alls samma deltagare?

Mvh
Daniel Melin
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Daniel Melin wrote:

> Jag kan tänka mig att hålla en presentation om antingen, eller en 
> kombination av:
>
> Kammarkollegiets ramavtal som har bäring på FOSS
> LOU (Lagen om Offentlig Upphandling) och FOSS
> Juridiska läget gällande FOSS i Sverige

Kanon. Jag har slängt in dem på http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/talks.html så länge, 
så får vi se vad vi kan knöla ihop till #2.

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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Per Andersson wrote:

> Kanske att träff #2 ha en slot för introduktion till problematiken och vad 
> för olika rörelser det finns (t ex någon av de organisationer jag nämnde). 
> Detta banar sedan väg för mer/större/bredare/djupare diskussioner.

Det kan funka. Någon som är intresserad av att hålla ett sånt? Hedvig?

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Hej Fredrik,

Your message in this mailing-list attracted my attention to your company. I
therefore sent an application to marzena.doberhof@iis.se as per the
webpage's instructions. But its now been three weeks since I applied and I
didn't had any answer.
Do you have any idea about what could have turned wrong or who I could
contact next ?

Med v=E4nliga h=E4lsningar,

--=20
Philippe BLAVIER
+46 732 097 066
=93Having lost sight of our goal we must redouble our efforts.=94 (Mark Twa=
in)


2010/3/1 Fredrik Broman <fredrik@bromaniac.eu>

> Hej,
>
> Hoppas det =E4r okej att posta platsannonser till listan?
>
> Vi p=E5 .SE s=F6ker b=E5de systemutvecklare och linuxtekniker:
> http://www.iis.se/om-se/lediga-tjanster/
>
> Vi inte bara anv=E4nder FOSS-mjukvara utan producerar =E4ven s=E5dan. Och=
 inte
> nog med det, =F6verskottet av verksamheten g=E5r till samh=E4llsnyttiga s=
aker
> som t ex internet i skolan, inf=F6rande av ipv6 och rena pengast=F6d till
> olika internetprojekt via internetfonden.
>
> /Fredrik (utvecklare hos .SE)
>
> _______________________________________________
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Hej=A0Fredrik,<div><br></div><div>Your message in this=A0mailing-list=A0att=
racted my attention to your company. I therefore sent an application to=A0<=
a href=3D"mailto:marzena.doberhof@iis.se" target=3D"_blank">marzena.doberho=
f@iis.se</a> as per the webpage&#39;s instructions.=A0But its now been thre=
e weeks since I applied and I didn&#39;t had any answer.</div>

<div>Do you have any idea about what could have turned wrong or who I could=
 contact next ?</div><div><br></div><div>Med v=E4nliga h=E4lsningar,</div><=
div><br></div><div>--=A0<br>Philippe BLAVIER<br>+46 732 097 066<br>=93Havin=
g lost sight of our goal we must redouble our efforts.=94 (Mark Twain)</div=
>

<div><br></div><div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/1 Fredrik Broman <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:fredrik@bromaniac.eu" target=3D"_blank">fredrik@bromani=
ac.eu</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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Hej,<br>
<br>
Hoppas det =E4r okej att posta platsannonser till listan?<br>
<br>
Vi p=E5 .SE s=F6ker b=E5de systemutvecklare och linuxtekniker:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.iis.se/om-se/lediga-tjanster/" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.iis.se/om-se/lediga-tjanster/</a><br>
<br>
Vi inte bara anv=E4nder FOSS-mjukvara utan producerar =E4ven s=E5dan. Och i=
nte<br>
nog med det, =F6verskottet av verksamheten g=E5r till samh=E4llsnyttiga sak=
er<br>
som t ex internet i skolan, inf=F6rande av ipv6 och rena pengast=F6d till<b=
r>
olika internetprojekt via internetfonden.<br>
<br>
/Fredrik (utvecklare hos .SE)<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
<a href=3D"http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/" target=3D"_blank">http://foss-sthlm.=
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Hej!

Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta
prenumerera p=E5 den.

Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.

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Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det endast
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N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en
http://sites.google.com/) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lika
angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?

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2010/3/17 Martin Bruse <zondolfin@gmail.com>

> Hej!
>

Hej Martin !


> Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta
> prenumerera p=E5 den.
>
> Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.
>
> Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=
=E4cker
> eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.
>

I just realized the mistake I've made, and apologize to you all for the
inconvenience.


>
> Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det end=
ast
> n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.
>

/me is whipping self


>
> N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en
> http://sites.google.com/) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lik=
a
> angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?
>
> v=E4nligen,
> //Martin
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/3/17 Martin Bruse <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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Hej!<br></blockquote><div>=A0</div><div>Hej Martin !=A0</div><div><br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta<br=
>
prenumerera p=E5 den.<br>
<br>
Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.<br>
<br>
Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=E4c=
ker<br>
eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.<br></=
blockquote><div>=A0</div><div>I just realized the mistake I&#39;ve made, an=
d apologize to you all for the inconvenience.</div><div>=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">


<br>
Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det endas=
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n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>/me is whipping self</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en<br>
<a href=3D"http://sites.google.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.=
com/</a>) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lika<br>
angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?<br>
<br>
v=E4nligen,<br>
//Martin<br>
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> Hej!
>
> Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta
> prenumerera p=E5 den.
>
> Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.
>


Vill bara ge en kompletterande uppfattning s=E5som allm=E4n list-lurkare h=
=E4r:
Jag h=E5ller faktiskt inte med Martin -- har inte ens t=E4nkt tanken att de=
nna
lista skulle vara f=F6r brusig, eller att det postas on=F6digt mycket s=E5d=
ant som
inte skulle ha allm=E4nintresse. S=E5, personligen tycker jag =E4nnu inte a=
tt det
finns n=E5gon behov av att uppmana till f=F6rsiktighet med att posta h=E4r.
Tv=E4rtom tycker jag att det postas lite f=F6r lite :)

Mvh

- Hugo Heden


Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=E4c=
ker
> eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.
>
> Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det end=
ast
> n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.
>
> N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en
> http://sites.google.com/) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lik=
a
> angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?
>
> v=E4nligen,
> //Martin
> _______________________________________________
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Hej!<br>
<br>
Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta<br=
>
prenumerera p=E5 den.<br>
<br>
Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.<br>=
</blockquote><div><br><br>Vill bara ge en kompletterande uppfattning s=E5so=
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vara f=F6r brusig, eller att det postas on=F6digt mycket s=E5dant som inte =
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t finns n=E5gon behov av att uppmana till f=F6rsiktighet med att posta h=E4=
r. Tv=E4rtom tycker jag att det postas lite f=F6r lite :)<br>

<br>Mvh<br><br>
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Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=E4c=
ker<br>
eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.<br>
<br>
Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det endas=
t<br>
n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.<br>
<br>
N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en<br>
<a href=3D"http://sites.google.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.=
com/</a>) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lika<br>
angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?<br>
<br>
v=E4nligen,<br>
//Martin<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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On 3/17/10 11:18 , Martin Bruse wrote:
> Hej!
>
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>
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>
> Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=
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>
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>
> N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en
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> angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?
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Den 17 mars 2010 13.03 skrev William 'zyk' Ekholm <zyk@acne.se>:

> Kolla upp om din mail-klient/gmail st=F6djer mail-filter. Om s=E5, st=E4l=
l in s=E5
> den l=E4gger alla mail fr=E5n den h=E4r listan i sin egen katalog. D=E5 s=
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> se listans mail i inkorgen. P=E5 jobbet har jag 9 listor med varsin katal=
og
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>
> Thunderbird har en sk=F6n tr=E5dvy som passar perfekt f=F6r listor om du =
k=F6r det.
>
> /z
>
>
> On 3/17/10 11:18 , Martin Bruse wrote:
>
>> Hej!
>>
>> Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta
>> prenumerera p=E5 den.
>>
>> Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.
>>
>> Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=
=E4cker
>> eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.
>>
>> Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det en=
dast
>> n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.
>>
>> N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en
>> http://sites.google.com/) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r li=
ka
>> angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?
>>
>> v=E4nligen,
>> //Martin
>> _______________________________________________
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<br>
Thunderbird har en sk=F6n tr=E5dvy som passar perfekt f=F6r listor om du k=
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/z<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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Hej!<br>
<br>
Jag tycker i princip om den h=E4r listan, och t=E4nkte v=E4l forts=E4tta<br=
>
prenumerera p=E5 den.<br>
<br>
Men det b=F6rjar k=E4nnas tveksamt med den volym som b=F6rjar komma nu.<br>
<br>
Det =E4r f=F6r m=E5nga som skickar ut mail till hela listan n=E4r det r=E4c=
ker<br>
eller till och med efterfr=E5gas att enbart skickas till en adressat.<br>
<br>
Sn=E4lla, var f=F6rsiktiga med att skicka till hela listan, g=F6r det endas=
t<br>
n=E4r det finns ett verkligt behov av det.<br>
<br>
N=E5gon kanske vill s=E4tta upp en wiki (varf=F6r inte en<br>
<a href=3D"http://sites.google.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.=
com/</a>) f=F6r allm=E4nna diskussioner som inte =E4r lika<br>
angel=E4gna f=F6r alla?<br>
<br>
v=E4nligen,<br>
//Martin<br>
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Hejsan

Jag jobbar på att möte #2 ska bli cirka 5 föredrag, med en liten (fika?)paus i 
mitten. Jag hoppas vi kan få till så att ingen av de föredragshållare som 
snackade på #1 återanvänds redan på #2. Istället vill jag ge chansen till 
fler, och jag vet att vi har många fler bra personer som kan.

Jag har precis donat om så att vårt programutkast är synligt på:

 	http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote2.html

Som ni ser där har två "slottar" inga namn än så länge, och minst ett har 
heller inget ämne/titel.

Berätta vad eller vilka vi ska ha där!

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> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Per Andersson wrote:
>
>  Kanske att tr=E4ff #2 ha en slot f=F6r introduktion till problematiken o=
ch vad
>> f=F6r olika r=F6relser det finns (t ex n=E5gon av de organisationer jag =
n=E4mnde).
>> Detta banar sedan v=E4g f=F6r mer/st=F6rre/bredare/djupare diskussioner.
>>
>
> Det kan funka. N=E5gon som =E4r intresserad av att h=E5lla ett s=E5nt? He=
dvig?
>

Visst, det kan jag g=F6ra. hur l=E5ng tid, 20 min ?

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Kanske att tr=E4ff #2 ha en slot f=F6r introduktion till problematiken och =
vad f=F6r olika r=F6relser det finns (t ex n=E5gon av de organisationer jag=
 n=E4mnde). Detta banar sedan v=E4g f=F6r mer/st=F6rre/bredare/djupare disk=
ussioner.<br>

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Hedvig Kamp wrote:

>> Det kan funka. Någon som är intresserad av att hålla ett sånt? Hedvig?
>
> Visst, det kan jag göra. hur lång tid, 20 min ?

Du kan få upp till 30 minuter, men säg till hur mycket du vill använda så att 
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Gokväll,

Jag har nu ett komplett förslag på ett program för möte #2 med fem stycken 
föredrag.

Notera att detta är ett FÖRSLAG, det går att ändra och jag är mycket 
intresserad av feedback. Jag har dock inte fått så många fler konkreta 
föredragsförslag utöver de som nu är med, så för att kunna prestera något 
annorlunda förslag måste fler kliva fram med ämnen de vill och kan snacka om!

   Göran Krampe     Smalltalk
   Daniel Melin     foss-juridik i Sverige
   Johan Thelin     Cross platform Qt
   Hedvig Kamp      Kvinnor och open source
   Benjamin Larsson FFmpeg

Allra senaste varianten syns alltid på: http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote2.html

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> Du kan f=E5 upp till 30 minuter, men s=E4g till hur mycket du vill anv=E4=
nda s=E5
> att vi kan planera in!
>
> Ok, planera in 30, tar det kortare tid s=E5 hinner vi med fler fr=E5gor
eller en extra =F6l efter=E5t. :)

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F=F6r min del tykte jag att reverse enginering l=E4t fruktansv=E4rt intress=
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Kanske det vore en ide att visa hur ett open source projekt startas
administreras och planeras vore en ide att visa upp.

Rockbox var en liten mysig st=E4mningsh=F6jdare i det senaste m=F6tet och j=
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Martin Lindkvist wrote:
> För min del tykte jag att reverse enginering lät fruktansvärt intressant ...
> 
> Kanske det vore en ide att visa hur ett open source projekt startas 
> administreras och planeras vore en ide att visa upp.

Tror att liknande ämne kan hållas av flera - MEN... det är väldigt stor 
skillnad på olika projekt så det finns ju ingen "sanning" direkt.

> Rockbox var en liten mysig stämningshöjdare i det senaste mötet och jag 
> som själv är fruktansvärt kär i atari Comodore64 och andra gamla datorer 
> njuter av dessa nördiga inslag och skulle gjärna se mer av detta ... 
> dock kanske det inte helt går i linje med FOSS "seriösa" stil.

"Seriösa"? Va katten, FOSS handlar ju om att ha roligt! Och jag tycker 
inte att man kan "komma undan" den nördiga tekniska delen, det är trots 
allt mjukvara det handlar om.

Själv hyrde (!) jag en Atari 400 när jag gick i... 6:an tror jag. Första 
burken, fick ont i fingertopparna. Övertalade senare mina föräldrar att 
betala 6000:- cirka för en C64. Det var ju tokmycket pengar då. Jag och 
en kompis byggde till och med specialhårdvara för C64:an, orkade bara 
bygga två exemplar - 272 st 0.8mm borrhål per kort, etsning i köket. Vi 
kallade prylen för "Multistix", gissa vad den gjorde! :)

Ok, nog med "memory lane"... :)

> Mvh
> Martin Lindkvist

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? :-)

Den 22 mars 2010 21.07 skrev G=F6ran Krampe <goran.krampe@msc.se>:

> Martin Lindkvist wrote:
>
>> F=F6r min del tykte jag att reverse enginering l=E4t fruktansv=E4rt intr=
essant
>> ...
>>
>> Kanske det vore en ide att visa hur ett open source projekt startas
>> administreras och planeras vore en ide att visa upp.
>>
>
> Tror att liknande =E4mne kan h=E5llas av flera - MEN... det =E4r v=E4ldig=
t stor
> skillnad p=E5 olika projekt s=E5 det finns ju ingen "sanning" direkt.
>
>
>  Rockbox var en liten mysig st=E4mningsh=F6jdare i det senaste m=F6tet oc=
h jag
>> som sj=E4lv =E4r fruktansv=E4rt k=E4r i atari Comodore64 och andra gamla=
 datorer
>> njuter av dessa n=F6rdiga inslag och skulle gj=E4rna se mer av detta ...=
 dock
>> kanske det inte helt g=E5r i linje med FOSS "seri=F6sa" stil.
>>
>
> "Seri=F6sa"? Va katten, FOSS handlar ju om att ha roligt! Och jag tycker =
inte
> att man kan "komma undan" den n=F6rdiga tekniska delen, det =E4r trots al=
lt
> mjukvara det handlar om.
>
> Sj=E4lv hyrde (!) jag en Atari 400 n=E4r jag gick i... 6:an tror jag. F=
=F6rsta
> burken, fick ont i fingertopparna. =D6vertalade senare mina f=F6r=E4ldrar=
 att
> betala 6000:- cirka f=F6r en C64. Det var ju tokmycket pengar d=E5. Jag o=
ch en
> kompis byggde till och med specialh=E5rdvara f=F6r C64:an, orkade bara by=
gga tv=E5
> exemplar - 272 st 0.8mm borrh=E5l per kort, etsning i k=F6ket. Vi kallade=
 prylen
> f=F6r "Multistix", gissa vad den gjorde! :)
>
> Ok, nog med "memory lane"... :)
>
>  Mvh
>> Martin Lindkvist
>>
>
> mvh G=F6ran
>
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F=F6r s=E5dana som mig, som inte var med p=E5 den tiden - vad gjorde prylen=
? :-)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Den 22 mars 2010 21.07 skrev G=F6ra=
n Krampe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:goran.krampe@msc.se">goran=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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r>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
F=F6r min del tykte jag att reverse enginering l=E4t fruktansv=E4rt intress=
ant ...<br>
<br>
Kanske det vore en ide att visa hur ett open source projekt startas adminis=
treras och planeras vore en ide att visa upp.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Tror att liknande =E4mne kan h=E5llas av flera - MEN... det =E4r v=E4ldigt =
stor skillnad p=E5 olika projekt s=E5 det finns ju ingen &quot;sanning&quot=
; direkt.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Rockbox var en liten mysig st=E4mningsh=F6jdare i det senaste m=F6tet och j=
ag som sj=E4lv =E4r fruktansv=E4rt k=E4r i atari Comodore64 och andra gamla=
 datorer njuter av dessa n=F6rdiga inslag och skulle gj=E4rna se mer av det=
ta ... dock kanske det inte helt g=E5r i linje med FOSS &quot;seri=F6sa&quo=
t; stil.<br>

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<br></div>
&quot;Seri=F6sa&quot;? Va katten, FOSS handlar ju om att ha roligt! Och jag=
 tycker inte att man kan &quot;komma undan&quot; den n=F6rdiga tekniska del=
en, det =E4r trots allt mjukvara det handlar om.<br>
<br>
Sj=E4lv hyrde (!) jag en Atari 400 n=E4r jag gick i... 6:an tror jag. F=F6r=
sta burken, fick ont i fingertopparna. =D6vertalade senare mina f=F6r=E4ldr=
ar att betala 6000:- cirka f=F6r en C64. Det var ju tokmycket pengar d=E5. =
Jag och en kompis byggde till och med specialh=E5rdvara f=F6r C64:an, orkad=
e bara bygga tv=E5 exemplar - 272 st 0.8mm borrh=E5l per kort, etsning i k=
=F6ket. Vi kallade prylen f=F6r &quot;Multistix&quot;, gissa vad den gjorde=
! :)<br>

<br>
Ok, nog med &quot;memory lane&quot;... :)<br>
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Björn Göransson wrote:
> För sådana som mig, som inte var med på den tiden - vad gjorde prylen? :-)

C64:an har två joystick-portar. Nu snackar vi lite äldre joysticks med 8 
olika "riktningar" osv.

Hur som helst, 2 stycken? C64:an har 8 hårdvaru-sprites och va katten, 
det vore ju klart kul ifall man kunde ha... 8 joysticks!

Ok, så en av joystick-portarna hade 3 pinnar ut - ifall jag minns rätt. 
3 pinnar ger ett tal 0-7, alltså kan vi via joystick-port 1 "selektera" 
rätt joystick att läsa av på joystick-port 2.

Så sagt och gjort - lite muxar och annat jox, så vips - 8 joysticks! 
Tror jag har en av dessa på vinden någonstans.

Sedan började vi hacka på ett stridsvagnsspel och kom så pass långt att 
man kunde styra varsin etc. Superkul!

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Martin Lindkvist wrote:

> För min del tykte jag att reverse enginering lät fruktansvärt intressant ...

Det finns så många föredrag att välja mellan! Jag och flera andra tyckte dock 
att principen att inte återanvända talare från möte #1 redan till möte #2 
väger lite tyngre. Det blir fler möten framöver där reverse enginering absolut 
kan komma med. Rätt många open source-projekt pysslar ju med sånt.

> Kanske det vore en ide att visa hur ett open source projekt startas
> administreras och planeras vore en ide att visa upp.

Jag har ett sådant föredrag sedan tidigare som jag gärna putsar upp och håller 
en dragning om. Det är säkert ett ämne som fler kan gagga om - tillsammans har 
vi nog maintainers och ledare för en hel drös paket och projekt i vårt gäng. 
Kanske får vi sätta ihop någon kul kombination till ett kommande möte.

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Hejsan

Jag har en sponsor som vill dela huvudsponsor-rollen för nästa möte. Är det 
någon av er goda människor (företag) som ställer upp?

Jag erbjuder:

   - Länk och fina omnämnanden på sajten
   - omnämnanden och tack på mötet
   - ev möjlighet att säga 3 ord på mötet
   - karmapoäng som du kan byta in mot ett bättre liv när du återföds nästa
     gång

Priset? 50/50-delning blir cirka 35 kr per person. Förra gången inköptes 160 
portioner, för drygt 10000 kr (inkl moms). Hälften av det pratar vi om här 
alltså. (Och nä, det kom inte 160 pers utan kanske 140 fast 185 var 
anmälda... vilket ger oss riktigt huvudbry hur vi ska räkna den här gången...)

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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:48:17PM +0100, Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> (Och n=E4, det kom inte 160 pers utan kanske 140 fast 185 =

> var anm=E4lda... vilket ger oss riktigt huvudbry hur vi ska r=E4kna den h=
=E4r =

> g=E5ngen...)

Gl=F6m inte att det var =E5rtusendets sn=F6storm och det var sv=E5rt att ta=
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f=F6r vissa. Men ja.. det =E4r v=E4l sv=E5rt att veta.

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Daniel Stenberg wrote:

> Jag har en sponsor som vill dela huvudsponsor-rollen för nästa möte. Är det 
> någon av er goda människor (företag) som ställer upp?

Hej igen.

Jag vill bara säga att ni som inte hörde av er nu missade chansen för den här 
gången. Våra goda vänner som kliver fram och hjälper oss göra möte #2 trivsamt 
är:

 	M Ekholms konsulttjänst AB och Academic Work

Tack!

PS, ni som ännu inte anmält er till möte #2, gör gärna det i så god tid som 
möjligt så att vi får koll: http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/mote2.html men jo, det 
är nästan två månader kvar! ;-)

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Hej allihop!

Jag och Mikael Kindborg kör varsitt gratis frukostseminarium hos oss i 
April, frukost ingår :)

Det första den 21/4 är "Webbutveckling för gudar - Seaside" och handlar 
såklart om Seaside som är ett fantastiskt coolt webbramverk under 
MIT-licens. Ifall du håller på med webbutveckling så hoppas jag 
definitivt att du dyker upp!

Det andra den 28/4 är "Better software with dynamic languages" som 
Mikael Kindborg håller. Tja, bäst är att du läser Mikaels beskrivning, 
båda seminarierna är beskrivna i detalj här (klicka på "Läs mer"-knapparna):

http://www.msc.se/tjanster/seminarier/frukostseminarier.html

Välkomna!

mvh Göran

PS. Vem som helst får anmäla sig, inklusive studenter osv.

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